Originally Posted by bmart

To me, it sounds like you want a bike to ride itself...I treasure all of the oddities each bike has and learning how to ride them well.

Originally Posted by greychinos

My goodness, now having low horsepower is about being self-righteous...

You have a different riding style, or different needs, than many other riders do. Which is fine, because that's why there are tons of different bikes to choose from. But responding to the notion that some riders want some power by saying you don't need horsepower because you already "express your power" in other ways, is frankly preposterous. You can be in control of your life and enjoy more than 25 horsepower, at the same time.

Originally Posted by tooter

I understand this makes no sense to others, nevertheless that's what I do. I found other ways of self expression besides of bikes.

Originally Posted by greychinos

Why is it not possible in your view to "express yourself" with a motorcycle and also find purpose in other projects at the same time? You don't have to choose a side. They can coexist within your life.

Originally Posted by tooter

What I said wasn't exclusive. It's just what I do.

Originally Posted by greychinos

That's what I'm saying, I'm talking about your own reasoning. You're putting yourself in a box it seems.