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Old 11-06-2008, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KiloTango
or that he won't salute the flag, or wear it on his lapel like a senator should, or that when he went to Iraq he walked right past the enlisted, shot hoops with the brass and went home, or that he has questionable associations, or that his college and birth records are sealed.....

First, everything you just mentioned there is a complete 100% lie and there's photo evidence of it being a lie made up by the republican party to tarnish Obama. The footage they use to 'claim' he wouldn't do any of that was when the National Anthem was being sung, in which case you do not need to cover your heart (just in case you didn't know that). Also, he does salute the flag and wear it on his lapel as I've seen several photos of it on. When he went to Iraq he visited the troops in the medical ward to speak with the injured and give them some encouragement.


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First, the tax breaks to major corporations were enacted to put more money in YOUR pocket.
A little education right back to ya here.

That is what Bush and the Republics told everyone was the 'IDEA' of those tax breaks. However, they did NOTHING for the middle class but instead made the rich richer and gave them more incentive to move jobs overseas. Most of the companies that benefited from those tax breaks are companies that have moved most of their production lines to places outside of the USA while doing nothing for middle-class families in the USA. The failure of those tax breaks was so significant that even Bush doesn't want to have them continue when they run out. They know now that it was a mistake to have made those tax breaks and it only made our economy and industry weaken even faster.

There is one point I can't argue with you on however:

Originally Posted by chik636rydr
Everyone that pays taxes in this country money goes to the lazy ****'s who wont get off their asses and get jobs. Everyone who has ever received federal, state, or local assistance through grants or checks on a regular basis is spending MY (and our) hard earned money. Blame the people living in the ghetto receiving their welfare checks driving around brand new escalades with 10k worth of rims on it, blame it in the mother who continues to have bastard children just to receive WIC and Food Stamps. What is this bs about having food stamps on debit cards to make it less embarassing and demeaning for them? They need to be embarassed for having to use that! If there were shame about getting the food stamps people would be more inclined to get off their *** and get a job.
That part I completely agree with you on and hope that something gets done to those people. I also hope that they start to enforce the immigration laws more and become stronger in the penalties for illegals and their supporters.

I also agree with those that said why should his religion even be brought up in this. Despite the fact that he is indeed a baptized Christian, why should it matter if he was Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, or Buddhist? This country is built on the idea that everyone should be given the same chance as everyone else regardless of race, religion, or gender.
 
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:34 PM
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Sombo, dude just shut up. You said obama never danced around questions. Of course he did, so did McCain. They are both liers, neither of them can change the country to where we are all happy. McCain is old and Obama is a socialist.

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Old 11-06-2008, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Shoe
Sombo, dude just shut up. You said obama never danced around questions. Of course he did, so did McCain. They are both liers, neither of them can change the country to where we are all happy. McCain is old and Obama is a socialist.

the end,
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Never said he didn't dance around questions. However, I did say that even Obama contradicted himself a few times, just not nearly as much as McCain.

I agree that whoever the president is won't be able to fix this country alone because of congress. Also, stop using him as a scapegoat for being 'socialist'. Having worked for the government for numerous years now I can tell you that the government as a whole is already socialist, has been for years. It's just most people chose to ignore it until now and are targeting Obama. Try working for the federal government for a few years and you'll see he's one of the lease socialist ideologists in the federal government.

Ok, I'm done.... I agree, time to party........... besides if the fear over the particle collider turn out to be true we'll only have a few more years before the whole world blows up from a black hole anyway lol.
 
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:17 PM
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it should matter that he is a muslim cuz every muslim country that harbors terrorists are cheering that he got in. Cuz of his muslim background. The man is friends with a terrorist. I do not trust obama. He started his politcal career in a mans house that bombed the pentigon. And then worked along side him. Plus how can you go to a church and not know that his preacher hates america. And damns america. The ppl that voted for him are blind to all of that cuz the media did not report on it.
 
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by firstninjabike
The man is friends with a terrorist. I do not trust obama. He started his politcal career in a mans house that bombed the pentigon. And then worked along side him. Plus how can you go to a church and not know that his preacher hates america. And damns america. The ppl that voted for him are blind to all of that cuz the media did not report on it.
FN, I do agree with those points, but not the Muslim thing, there are plenty of good Muslim US citizens and abroad, I would not paint them with that brush.

But the media was totally in his camp and made excuses for him, and even went after anyone who dared even ask a legitimate question, i.e., Joe the plumber. After that became news, they immediately devoted tremendous resources into prying into his background trying to dig up dirt and smear him, simply because he asked a question. Meanwhile the media smeared McCain and Palin at every opportunity, and then claim to be "fair and unbiased". What a joke.

That's change we need.
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:25 AM
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I will agree not all muslims are terrorist. Most of them arnt. But the select few are.The terrorist muslim countries want him in and thats bad
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by firstninjabike
I will agree not all muslims are terrorist. Most of them arnt. But the select few are.The terrorist muslim countries want him in and thats bad
+1 the towelhead plame bomber is just a negative stereo type. in general the muslim people are peaceful... the radicals are the violent ones.

look at the kkk, they believe theyre good christians. im pretty sure not all christians go around hanging/beating black people and setting crosses on fire in order to dance around it in a robe with a pointy hat. right?
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:54 AM
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Jane fonda and john kerry should be tried for treason for what they did in Nam
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:08 AM
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the particle collider is broke btw. Not all muslims are terrorists. Only the extremes, who normal muslims hate. I learned this at basketball whilst stuffing a muslim and saying "Great, now my house is gonna get bombed." he calmly explained it to me.
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:28 AM
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This election to me signified the dumbing down of America. People only chose to listen to the liberal media and not research the points themselves. They simply voted for one word, "change", and change they will get. Not for the better, that I can assure you, no, we are going to end up giving hard earned money to those who do not deserve it. We are going to be tested by foreign governments, Russia, for example, is already doing some odd things. Obama campaigned hard left and that sure as hell isn't going to change now that he is president. What Obama wants, Obama is going to get, but at least they didn't get the magical 60 senators. How do you think he is going to fund all of his policies? You tax the rich to much and they aren't going to want to play any more. Alas, McCain never had a chance when the stock market dropped, not to mention that minorities and the media were all in Obama's camp. How many of the minority voters ever voted before this election?
 


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