What rear tire to stud?
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The only way to be sure is to measure an actual tire mounted & at correct pressure. The numbers don't tell the story, even between different tires from the same maker.
In theory you're right.
In theory you're right.
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see links to videos. The stuff here was a mix from lose snow on trail to hard packed slick icy snow (on the hill climb with poor video of my run).
We had another ride a month ago with the trials tire nearing the end of its days, and it still did pretty good up a single track trail and FS roads in 4 to 6" of fresher snow. ***** did fine in that stuff too. My experience with this tire is that it held the slick icier packed snow much better than the ***** on the other bikes, but when the snow gets deep, the ***** perform better (kind of like how the trials tires don't do nearly as well in deep sand and mud). The snow has also been the dry kind, and I could see that wet snow may fill up the grooves. The compound on this trials tire is also very soft and squishy, kind of like the Blizzak studless tires I run on the truck.
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Thanks guys. I don't think height is my issue as much as width and swing arm length. My Maxxis is 5.25 in wide, so something like the Kenda might be just what I'm looking for.
IDRIDR, what kind of conditions were you running the trials tire in? Hard/soft snow, ice? I've never used a trials tire for anything. I'd love to try it sometime.
As far as the studs go, no I'm not racing. I walked into a local dealer, told the parts guy I wanted to try studs on my KLX, and that's what he gave me. He said he used them on his YZF 450 for trail riding. I looked at everything from the ones I got, to carbide tipped, to Tapcon screws installed from the inside with the point sticking out. After all the research, I decided I knew nothing, and whatever was in stock was going in my tires.
IDRIDR, what kind of conditions were you running the trials tire in? Hard/soft snow, ice? I've never used a trials tire for anything. I'd love to try it sometime.
As far as the studs go, no I'm not racing. I walked into a local dealer, told the parts guy I wanted to try studs on my KLX, and that's what he gave me. He said he used them on his YZF 450 for trail riding. I looked at everything from the ones I got, to carbide tipped, to Tapcon screws installed from the inside with the point sticking out. After all the research, I decided I knew nothing, and whatever was in stock was going in my tires.
If you're mainly trail riding, the trials pattern might be good. They have a good tread for screws, lots of screws.
The problem with them is the squarish profile, if you lean over far enough (like when playing flat track on a frozen lake) you ride off the edge - even with screws. I know, I've done it on two different bikes.
I will also tell you from experience the tread pattern of the Kenda that I mentioned (I used the Yokohamas when they were available) the tread pattern is better for dirt, mud. I had them on my trials bike, so I've done both kinds of tires. The trials pattern can actually spin a groove since the tread blocks line up. The really soft actual competition type trials tires will clean out well due to the flex in the carcass when riding with the really low pressure and the tread can squirm around a bit, getting a bit more bite. That isn't so true with the 4 plys and such that were common street use trials pattern are nothing special... except low buck, but so are the Kendas.
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If you're mainly trail riding, the trials pattern might be good. They have a good tread for screws, lots of screws.
The problem with them is the squarish profile, if you lean over far enough (like when playing flat track on a frozen lake) you ride off the edge - even with screws. I know, I've done it on two different bikes.
I will also tell you from experience the tread pattern of the Kenda that I mentioned (I used the Yokohamas when they were available) the tread pattern is better for dirt, mud. I had them on my trials bike, so I've done both kinds of tires. The trials pattern can actually spin a groove since the tread blocks line up. The really soft actual competition type trials tires will clean out well due to the flex in the carcass when riding with the really low pressure and the tread can squirm around a bit, getting a bit more bite. That isn't so true with the 4 plys and such that were common street use trials pattern are nothing special... except low buck, but so are the Kendas.
The problem with them is the squarish profile, if you lean over far enough (like when playing flat track on a frozen lake) you ride off the edge - even with screws. I know, I've done it on two different bikes.
I will also tell you from experience the tread pattern of the Kenda that I mentioned (I used the Yokohamas when they were available) the tread pattern is better for dirt, mud. I had them on my trials bike, so I've done both kinds of tires. The trials pattern can actually spin a groove since the tread blocks line up. The really soft actual competition type trials tires will clean out well due to the flex in the carcass when riding with the really low pressure and the tread can squirm around a bit, getting a bit more bite. That isn't so true with the 4 plys and such that were common street use trials pattern are nothing special... except low buck, but so are the Kendas.
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