Is there a Starting Problem Fix?

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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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sorry for the double post but i also thought of another avenue..the battery..I know there areother batteries on the market that may provide a higher cranking amp rating than what the OEM battery is..are we all still running the original battery? just curious I know when the batteries go in our daily drivers, I tend to buy the one with the highest cold cranking amp rating that fits...makes winter starting easier.
 
Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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sorry for the double post but i also thought of another avenue..the battery..I know there areother batteries on the market that may provide a higher cranking amp rating than what the OEM battery is..are we all still running the original battery? just curious I know when the batteries go in our daily drivers, I tend to buy the one with the highest cold cranking amp rating that fits...makes winter starting easier.

I still have the stock battery. I have one battery tender that I rotate between my three bikes. They all pretty much stay fully charged at all times.
 
Old Nov 24, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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I use premium petrol
I had trouble starting my bike with the stock carb
I replaced the carb with the Bill Blue Mikuni TM33/34
I have done NO other engine/carb/airbox mods (apart from filter sox added while still on the Kehin carb, made no difference to starting)
Now I have no trouble at all starting the bike.
From cold 2 twists of the throttle, choke on, hit the button and it starts every time, even after sitting for a week or more. When hot no choke, 1twist of the throttle, hit the button and it starts. Every time

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Ummm, I hate to get in on this volitile subject, but I'm pretty sure that it has nothing to do with the battery voltage being lower. My KLX will start with a dead battery. That's why I put the kick starter on it. So nix that theory.
 
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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What does it say in the manual for proper shutdown technique? Silly me, I have had my Honda CRF450X for two years and never read it. My manual says to properly shut off the bike, to turn the fuel off, give it 2-3 medium cranks on the throttle, then use the kill switch to shut off the bike. It says, otherwise, it may have a hard time starting.

So I pose a new question; is letting the Kawai bike drain the fuel all the way out, completly necessaray? Has anybody tried turning the fuel off, revving it a few times and shuting it off? I'm wondering if it only needs to drain a little bit, rather than all of it, which would be much easier and in my opinion, acceptable.

What do you guys think?
 
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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What does it say in the manual for proper shutdown technique? Silly me, I have had my Honda CRF450X for two years and never read it. My manual says to properly shut off the bike, to turn the fuel off, give it 2-3 medium cranks on the throttle, then use the kill switch to shut off the bike. It says, otherwise, it may have a hard time starting.

So I pose a new question; is letting the Kawai bike drain the fuel all the way out, completly necessaray? Has anybody tried turning the fuel off, revving it a few times and shuting it off? I'm wondering if it only needs to drain a little bit, rather than all of it, which would be much easier and in my opinion, acceptable.

What do you guys think?
Sounds like another good experiment. I'm in the middle of leaving my gas on and riding the wife's bike for a week or two. Then I'm gonna pull the plug and replace it with a new dry one. I really don't think this will make a difference, but I am willing to try just about anything at this point. Although replacing the plug will not be a starting option for anyone. I'll let you know what I find out. So who is going to try the shutting off the gas and hitting the throttle a few times theory? It has to be someone who has the hard starting problem, and can let the bike sit for a week.
 
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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I'm going to try it on my CRF but it would be nice to have somebody try it on the 250S who does have a hard time starting.

Anybody???
 
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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I can give that a shot..will start bike up this evening before heading to work (currently it sits w/o gas in the bowl-let it run with gas off until it quit), so i start her up, go for a spin, then shut off the fuel, a couple last blurps on the throttle and kill it via the kill switch..check back in a week or so?
 
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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I can give that a shot..will start bike up this evening before heading to work (currently it sits w/o gas in the bowl-let it run with gas off until it quit), so i start her up, go for a spin, then shut off the fuel, a couple last blurps on the throttle and kill it via the kill switch..check back in a week or so?
Cool, let us know what happens. I'll let you guys know what I find out after installing a new plug after a week. Rode the wife's bike to work today, I forgot how gutless that thing is compared to the KLX. But with the Alternator being rebuilt in the Dodge truck, I actually had no choice but to ride another bike in the garage. Sheesh, they wanted almost $300.00 for a new alternator, or I can have mine rebuilt with better parts for 1/3 that.
 
Old Nov 26, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Im gonna throw my 2 cents in here (for what its worth!) I agree with the fuel theory, Now I have no scientific evedince or research studies, but in the subterranim mole labratory I used "Sta-bill" in my generator gas and poured the balance of the gascan in the KLX after the last trip 5 weeks ago, have not touched the bike since and it started right up! I did not drain the bowl or add any additional fuel, just turned the fuel on...Hit the magic e-start button vroommmm.
 



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