New AGM battery makes starting a breeze.
#31
12-01-2011, 05:23 PM
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: White Bear Lake, Minnesota
Posts: 152
I agree with the comments that say run whatever you want and are happy with........
With that said I guess I just don't understand the weight savings aspect some tout here?
How much can a couple of pounds difference make. Bet you could never ever tell the difference comparing it back to back.
How much do you guys weigh? I bet most could afford to loose at least 10lbs which would make a whole lot more difference.
btw - I'm 5'10" @ 155lbs...........I need a heavier battery just to hold the KLX down.
With that said I guess I just don't understand the weight savings aspect some tout here?
How much can a couple of pounds difference make. Bet you could never ever tell the difference comparing it back to back.
How much do you guys weigh? I bet most could afford to loose at least 10lbs which would make a whole lot more difference.
btw - I'm 5'10" @ 155lbs...........I need a heavier battery just to hold the KLX down.
Last edited by buerkletucson; 12-01-2011 at 05:28 PM.
#32
12-01-2011, 06:56 PM
How did I basically make it? I bought it, and connected the wires.
You guys run whatever you want, I don't care, but don't make things up to try and prove that whatever you have is best.
For performance, price, and weight, nothing you have presented can touch these batteries. They just plain work, and kick ***. I have them in my bike, and daily driver performance car, so if they didn't, I would know by now.
You guys run whatever you want, I don't care, but don't make things up to try and prove that whatever you have is best.
For performance, price, and weight, nothing you have presented can touch these batteries. They just plain work, and kick ***. I have them in my bike, and daily driver performance car, so if they didn't, I would know by now.
But their just lithium cells heatshrink wrapped together, you could put any amount of those little AA looking cells together in parrallel or series to get whatever voltages or capacities you need.
The Shorai is lithiumIron and most likely has all the shunts and such incoroporated into the battery so it cannot be overcharged... Most lithium batteries do for safety... its the cheap china no names you have to watch out for, they fail to install the overcharge protection into the batteries to save money... and its when ppl get creative with them they end up overchaged and either the battery is destroyed, catches fire, or exlplodes, lithium is nothing like other batteries... and can be dangerous, its reckless to just tell ppl to find some lithium lookin stuff and slap it in their bike... thers too many derivatives of it out there all with ups and downs, but hey happy it worked out.
But thats no reason to so say I'm making stuff up, everything I said is true. If you don't understand some part of it, perhaps you could ask and I could explain it to you better, or put the time in to learn it yourself... Im not trying to sell my stock battery to this forum dude I could care less about it, and I doubt its better than that Shorai, I'm just saying its lasted this long for me because of reasons already mentioned... and will keep on lasting I imagine.
Heck, put a lemon in that batery box... as long as it starts it...
Last edited by LikesToThump; 12-01-2011 at 07:14 PM.
#35
12-01-2011, 08:29 PM
I agree with the comments that say run whatever you want and are happy with........
With that said I guess I just don't understand the weight savings aspect some tout here?
How much can a couple of pounds difference make. Bet you could never ever tell the difference comparing it back to back.
How much do you guys weigh? I bet most could afford to loose at least 10lbs which would make a whole lot more difference.
btw - I'm 5'10" @ 155lbs...........I need a heavier battery just to hold the KLX down.
With that said I guess I just don't understand the weight savings aspect some tout here?
How much can a couple of pounds difference make. Bet you could never ever tell the difference comparing it back to back.
How much do you guys weigh? I bet most could afford to loose at least 10lbs which would make a whole lot more difference.
btw - I'm 5'10" @ 155lbs...........I need a heavier battery just to hold the KLX down.
5'8" and 150lbs. I've spent hundreds if not thousands in Ti to lighten my Time Trial bicycle by a few ounces. There are two things to it for me. One is that all of the little savings here and there add up. And two there is the psychological thing that you feel "light." It is all BS and a waste of time and money? Probably. But it's not a rational pursuit.
#36
12-02-2011, 12:54 AM
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SW Ontario, Canada
Posts: 869
Congratulations on ur ebay endeavor, serioulsy thanks for braving the dark on that one so others here could gain the benefits of a lithium alternative at a good deal...
But their just lithium cells heatshrink wrapped together, you could put any amount of those little AA looking cells together in parrallel or series to get whatever voltages or capacities you need.
The Shorai is lithiumIron and most likely has all the shunts and such incoroporated into the battery so it cannot be overcharged... Most lithium batteries do for safety... its the cheap china no names you have to watch out for, they fail to install the overcharge protection into the batteries to save money... and its when ppl get creative with them they end up overchaged and either the battery is destroyed, catches fire, or exlplodes, lithium is nothing like other batteries... and can be dangerous, its reckless to just tell ppl to find some lithium lookin stuff and slap it in their bike... thers too many derivatives of it out there all with ups and downs, but hey happy it worked out.
But thats no reason to so say I'm making stuff up, everything I said is true. If you don't understand some part of it, perhaps you could ask and I could explain it to you better, or put the time in to learn it yourself... Im not trying to sell my stock battery to this forum dude I could care less about it, and I doubt its better than that Shorai, I'm just saying its lasted this long for me because of reasons already mentioned... and will keep on lasting I imagine.
Heck, put a lemon in that batery box... as long as it starts it...
But their just lithium cells heatshrink wrapped together, you could put any amount of those little AA looking cells together in parrallel or series to get whatever voltages or capacities you need.
The Shorai is lithiumIron and most likely has all the shunts and such incoroporated into the battery so it cannot be overcharged... Most lithium batteries do for safety... its the cheap china no names you have to watch out for, they fail to install the overcharge protection into the batteries to save money... and its when ppl get creative with them they end up overchaged and either the battery is destroyed, catches fire, or exlplodes, lithium is nothing like other batteries... and can be dangerous, its reckless to just tell ppl to find some lithium lookin stuff and slap it in their bike... thers too many derivatives of it out there all with ups and downs, but hey happy it worked out.
But thats no reason to so say I'm making stuff up, everything I said is true. If you don't understand some part of it, perhaps you could ask and I could explain it to you better, or put the time in to learn it yourself... Im not trying to sell my stock battery to this forum dude I could care less about it, and I doubt its better than that Shorai, I'm just saying its lasted this long for me because of reasons already mentioned... and will keep on lasting I imagine.
Heck, put a lemon in that batery box... as long as it starts it...
#37
12-02-2011, 02:11 AM
Your batteries can be full of chocolate chips and fairy dust for all I care, enjoy
Last edited by LikesToThump; 12-02-2011 at 02:17 AM.
#39
12-02-2011, 11:27 AM
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: White Bear Lake, Minnesota
Posts: 152
5'8" and 150lbs. I've spent hundreds if not thousands in Ti to lighten my Time Trial bicycle by a few ounces. There are two things to it for me. One is that all of the little savings here and there add up. And two there is the psychological thing that you feel "light." It is all BS and a waste of time and money? Probably.
But it's not a rational pursuit.
But it's not a rational pursuit.
btw - Comparing a time trial bicycle or Trials rider motorcycle to a KLX is definitely not rational.
#40
12-02-2011, 12:36 PM
I was comparing the goal to lighten the bike. It is possible to make a comparison of certain aspects of two things and not the things themselves.
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