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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Ok so everyone pretty much agrees that the klx handles better than any model drz in tight woods conditions, but how does the klx stack up to a true offroad machine like the wr250f in the same conditions(even assuming the klx has springs matched to rider weight in the front)?
 
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eric you would have died if you had seen that little spinner that i rode with on that last dual sport ride i went on. no pics to back this up but she was smokin' hot with a nice rummpadump and she could MOTOR!!! i think she was on a 200 exc but i'm not certain. i had all could handle just keeping up with her.
 
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Ok so everyone pretty much agrees that the klx handles better than any model drz in tight woods conditions, but how does the klx stack up to a true offroad machine like the wr250f in the same conditions(even assuming the klx has springs matched to rider weight in the front)?
I think you answered your own question when you distinguished the WR as being the "true offroad machine" compared to the KLX's beginner bike qualities. The KLX's stock 'springs' or suspension overall will suit most riders who aren't over 200 lbs. if they adjust them correctly. The springs or suspension components are the least of things holding the KLX back when comparing it off-road to a WR250F. The first thing I think of is LACK OF POWER by the KLX when doing this comparo. The WR will flat out kill it everywhere off-road.BUT, add a 331cc kit, and an FCR carb and it quite likely will be a different story. But then again, your suspension is still nowhere near the quality of the Yammie, nor is the chassis. BUT, then again the Yammie won't be street legal either. BUT, the TE250 Husky is and will kill boththe KLX and WRbadly anywhere anytime.
 
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eric you would have died if you had seen that little spinner that i rode with on that last dual sport ride i went on. no pics to back this up but she was smokin' hot with a nice rummpadump and she could MOTOR!!! i think she was on a 200 exc but i'm not certain. i had all could handle just keeping up with her.
No pics to back it up? Ah come on man... lol... thats cool.
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Ok so everyone pretty much agrees that the klx handles better than any model drz in tight woods conditions, but how does the klx stack up to a true offroad machine like the wr250f in the same conditions(even assuming the klx has springs matched to rider weight in the front)?
I think you answered your own question when you distinguished the WR as being the "true offroad machine" compared to the KLX's beginner bike qualities. The KLX's stock 'springs' or suspension overall will suit most riders who aren't over 200 lbs. if they adjust them correctly. The springs or suspension components are the least of things holding the KLX back when comparing it off-road to a WR250F. The first thing I think of is LACK OF POWER by the KLX when doing this comparo. The WR will flat out kill it everywhere off-road.BUT, add a 331cc kit, and an FCR carb and it quite likely will be a different story. But then again, your suspension is still nowhere near the quality of the Yammie, nor is the chassis. BUT, then again the Yammie won't be street legal either. BUT, the TE250 Husky is and will kill boththe KLX and WRbadly anywhere anytime.
WR250F put out around 30 BHP, and that's without the free mods. End of story.

Although I have seen bill blue say that the KLX will do better than the WR in mud and slow woods, because it turns quicker and has MORE low end than the 250F.

 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Ok so everyone pretty much agrees that the klx handles better than any model drz in tight woods conditions, but how does the klx stack up to a true offroad machine like the wr250f in the same conditions(even assuming the klx has springs matched to rider weight in the front)?
I think you answered your own question when you distinguished the WR as being the "true offroad machine" compared to the KLX's beginner bike qualities. The KLX's stock 'springs' or suspension overall will suit most riders who aren't over 200 lbs. if they adjust them correctly. The springs or suspension components are the least of things holding the KLX back when comparing it off-road to a WR250F. The first thing I think of is LACK OF POWER by the KLX when doing this comparo. The WR will flat out kill it everywhere off-road.BUT, add a 331cc kit, and an FCR carb and it quite likely will be a different story. But then again, your suspension is still nowhere near the quality of the Yammie, nor is the chassis. BUT, then again the Yammie won't be street legal either. BUT, the TE250 Husky is and will kill boththe KLX and WRbadly anywhere anytime.
WR250F put out around 30 BHP, and that's without the free mods. End of story.

Although I have seen bill blue say that the KLX will do better than the WR in mud and slow woods, because it turns quicker and has MORE low end than the 250F.

it's not hard to change sprockets to fix that. being woods bike, I'd have to ride one to believe that. I don't see Yammie tuning their smallest woods bike to have less low-end than the anemic KLX. He would probably know though. But still, when you think about it, can you imagine a WR having less power down low than the KLX? If that's the case, the WR must be really slow down low in it's powerband. I'd like to see the two compared on a dyno to see the curve.
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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it's not hard to change sprockets to fix that. being woods bike, I'd have to ride one to believe that. I don't see Yammie tuning their smallest woods bike to have less low-end than the anemic KLX. He would probably know though. But still, when you think about it, can you imagine a WR having less power down low than the KLX? If that's the case, the WR must be really slow down low in it's powerband. I'd like to see the two compared on a dyno to see the curve.
I know, I was pretty surprised with his statement too.

I imagine though that out of the box, the WR was designed to be ridden like a real woods racer, and that's fast and on the rev limiter. Aggressive and quick, rather than slow and easy going like the KLX.

EDIT: WTF, I pulled some dyno charts for both bikes, but KF seems to disable cutting and pasting...
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Yeah you have to use CTRL-V CTRL-X and CTRL-C for paste, cut, and copy unless you run Firefox.
 
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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I have heard the same thing from the guys at thumpertalk (KLX has more on the low end), though I haven't personally experienced it. Bill P. (thumpertalk KLX forum)owns both bikesand I'm pretty sure I remember him saying the same thing. He DOES own a KLX300 though. It makes sense if you have a much higher peak HP in the same displacement of bike -especially with such a small displacement engine- that most of your power is being developed on the top end. You can't really have the best of both worlds although I think the WR might have a slightly higher compression ratio.
 



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