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Old Oct 27, 2016 | 12:50 AM
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TNC, I took a look at the tubliss web site and it sounds interesting. I did a DS ride in Prescott last weekend and ran about 14psi.
I ended up riding with a guy running 5 psi, he must have been running this system. He said he was a lot more stable on the rocks. I'm thinking he is right and have a couple of questions for you.
1. Is there a big change in traction & rideablity with these? Like substantial? Or do I need a new bike? hehe
2. I just put a new front on last season & a new rear on last week. On the tubliss system faq it sayes to use new tires. Both of mine are very new looking but have been used with rimlocks. So my question is have you ever used 'used' tires or do u think this is a 'critical' must?
 
Old Oct 27, 2016 | 06:39 AM
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G'day,
I use tubliss on my KLX, for highway and singletrail riding (obviously at different pressures). When I installed them all I had was a used D606 rear with deep rimlock indentations. Rather than throw it away, I tried it. No probs in this case, although I did use a lot of Stan's sealant to be sure. I've worn the tyre out now without issue. The risk is that it will leak where the rimlock was. A sample size of one, it worked but I don't plan on doing it again.

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Old Oct 27, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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Never had a flat. 16,000 miles on all kinds of terrain. 20 lbs or pressure baby!!!
 
Old Oct 27, 2016 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by deej
20 lbs or pressure baby!!!
The object would be to run 5-8psi, I can run 20psi now... I don't want too!
 
Old Oct 28, 2016 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by durielk
TNC, I took a look at the tubliss web site and it sounds interesting. I did a DS ride in Prescott last weekend and ran about 14psi.
I ended up riding with a guy running 5 psi, he must have been running this system. He said he was a lot more stable on the rocks. I'm thinking he is right and have a couple of questions for you.
1. Is there a big change in traction & rideablity with these? Like substantial? Or do I need a new bike? hehe
2. I just put a new front on last season & a new rear on last week. On the tubliss system faq it sayes to use new tires. Both of mine are very new looking but have been used with rimlocks. So my question is have you ever used 'used' tires or do u think this is a 'critical' must?
You can generally run a used tire if the tire is a quality item to begin with...not some half worn out Cheng Shin. The sealant will almost always take care of any small leaks.

On traction and rideability, that's a hard one. The lower pressure you run, the closer you get to that point where you get a failure due to too low a pressure. Where that point is depends on variables like the tire design, trail conditions, rider aggressiveness, etc. I still contend that without the tube in there you don't have to run as low a pressure to get the same tire traction in a tubeless setup as in a tubed setup.
 
Old Oct 28, 2016 | 03:15 AM
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TNC,..... still waiting on #1 question. U run them, is it a substantial change in feel? IYHO?
 
Old Oct 28, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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Update - Have fitted a rimlock, and no punctures since, despite some (almost deliberate) dragster pullaways.

My need to spend on a new laptop prevents me getting the Tubliss for now but I'm still very interested
 
Old Oct 28, 2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by durielk
TNC,..... still waiting on #1 question. U run them, is it a substantial change in feel? IYHO?
Man...I've been running the Tubliss system for nearly 10 years. I'm not sure I can even remember what the tubed setup felt like. I can recall improvement, but it's hard to quantify the amount. Better?...yes.

After Thanksgiving I'm headed to the Big Bend area of TX for a couple of weeks. I'll be trying something new...to me. I'll have a Pirelli MT43 tubeless trials tire mounted with the Tubliss system on the rear. I know people who run this tire successfully and reviews are almost always high. We'll see. This tire is supposed to be ideal for the kind of terrain/conditions I usually ride in. The Kenda Parker Desert on the front isn't going anywhere, however.
 
Old Oct 28, 2016 | 10:26 PM
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The substantial change in feel, in my experience, is when dropping to 8 psi and getting that amazing traction. Hop out on the tarmac and it feels like a tire with 8 psi.
 
Old Oct 29, 2016 | 01:50 PM
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I had (what I believed to be) a pinch flat the other day and came across this product when searching what a tube with pinch flat looks like. Was going to ask about it in a new thread, but figured I'd bring it up here. I haven't heard of tube guard before or heard anyone mention it. Nice alternative if you don't want to go tubliss. Anyone try before?

https://squatchracing.com/product/tubeguard/
 



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