KLX250S Street-able Dirt Bike... Need Dirt-able Cruiser
#22
03-13-2009, 06:53 AM
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: So.Cali
Posts: 674
2008 BENELLI TRE 1130 K AMAZONAS - YELLOW
That looks like fun.... I saw the video... Cool Thanks.
What kind of dirt do you expect to do with the cruiser?
I like to go up to the mountians in the summer (cooler weather) and take trailes and fire roads. nothing too technical.
I would like to go to Baja some day
Insurance is quite a bit more too. My agent quoted me a pretty good rate because I said it was a dualsport. When the VIN went into the computer, it came back as a "street, sport" and the rate jumped 4x.
That's exactly my setup, I have a klx250s 2007 to go mainly offroad and a f650gs 2002 to go mainly onroad.
Yea, you guessed it... I could not resist. I test drove the F650GS.
Nice!!!
First of all, they said, OK, go for it. It was un escorted. I took it around the block. Wow, I felt like a normal person, rather than a suspected thief.
Respect... That feels really cool!!
I was kinda surprized by the feel of the ~70 hp. I expected it to feel more powerful. My guess is that it is on par with the power of the Honda Shadow 750 give or take alittle... But I expected it to feel much more powerful than the Honda.
But still... The yuppie beamer is Nice!!"
I am tempted to test the F800GS. All in favor? ... Ey!
Oh .... If ya get the beamer I'll still ride with ya.....but ya may get a yuppie comment..lol
Funny.. But it does strike a bit close to home. I do feel like a KTM/KLR kinda guy, at heart anyway... read as wannabe
... and I have not consider the BMW until recently (anti-yuppie nervous twitches)... But I am feeling the pull to the beamer (maybe my old age is showing) but I like the comfort thing now. Anyway, had to comment on that one.
KTM KLR
I have heard tat the KTM is a reliability and maintaince pain. But they have power.
I have heard the KLR is reliable but less powerful.
I have concerns about 200 miles stetchs on either.
I have heard both out perform the GS in the dirt.
Can anyone provide some quick facts/opinions on the KLR 650?
seat is too low on the beamers.....remember I'm 5'10 170lb
Finger - What size is your KTM... 640? Any mechanical issues? Comfort at distances on the road?
Excellent feedback. Thanks.
#23
03-13-2009, 03:05 PM
If you're serious about a large single you can't go past the 610 Husky without a look.
"Husqvarna has just landed its new TEW610 in the country, claiming a massive list of revisions and changes for the 52-hoprse $12,000 machine.
The manufacturer evidently has a fair bit of faith in the bike, offering a 24-month warranty.
Here is the factory blurb on the toy...
Introduction
The new Husqvarna TE 610 i.e. benefits from having many parts in common with other four-stroke, racing Enduro Husqvarna. With the new TE 610 i.e., Husqvarna intends to widen its range to include those less competition-minded riders who use their bikes every day and need more comfort and practicality but want to combine this with the thrill of owning a race bred bike.
The Husqvarna TE 610 i.e. is perfect for those of you that want a bike with muscle but also class.
The TE 610 i.e. combines a strong character with looks. Part of its brilliance comes from the chassis that has been tuned to cope with daily road use but the machine is still powered by one of the best engines in production today, especially in the low-medium rev band. The new version has had some highly significant modifications to the cylinder and head as well as now being fitted with a new electronic injection system that conforms to Euro 3 standards. The 610 TE i.e. now has an electronic injection system that was developed in collaboration with Mikuni.
The TE 610 i.e. is an Enduro/off-road bike that can be used for medium/long journeys yet has all the creature comforts you would normally find on a road bike. The 12.5 litre tank is fitted with a locking cap. The new digital instrumentation displays speed, time, mileage, rpm and has a trip-meter as well as the normal warning lights (indicators, full beam, dipped beam, service due etc.).
The handlebars and controls are very much along the same lines as the TE racing version and the riding position can be changed by adjusting the clamps where the handlebars are connected to the forks.
The rear arm is the same as used on the TE 450/510 models and has a new Sachs shock absorber with compression and rebound adjustment using a redesigned link. At the front is a pair of Marzocchi 45 mm inverted forks. The Brembo brakes feature a floating 4-caliper 260 mm front disc while rear braking is left to a 220 mm disc.
The TE 610 i.e. was also designed to allow for comfortably carrying a pillion passenger. The saddle has different density padding and anti-slip foot pegs. Thanks to special clips fitted to the rear chassis and mudguard, special side panniers and a main stand can be fitted as an optional extra. The rear mudguard has a new separate number plate carrier with an independent illumination light.
Engine
A balancing counter-shaft is fitted to the 610 engine to off-set the vibration one would normally expect with a large single cylinder unit. Lubrication is by means of two lobe type pumps. One pump supplies oil to the head and crankshaft, while the second pump draws oil from the crankcase and supplies it to the gearbox. Breathing is via a 4-valve, single overhead cam and twin arm rocker system with variable valve springs.
A new timing chain tensioner has also been introduced to further dampen noise. The 610 TE i.e. now has an electronic injection system that was developed in collaboration with Mikuni. The engine features a 42 mm throttle body with the starter command on the handlebars and there is now a 300 Kpa Mitsubishi "twin jet" fuel injector fitted to the throttle.
The pressure regulator (3 Bar) regulates any return of excess fuel to the tank and the MAQS (Modularized Air Quantity Sensor) consists of air temperature, mapping and TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) sensors. The Kokusan 360W three-phase ignition flywheel is also new. The water temperature sensor is positioned on the head. The injection ECU processes signals and governs the operation of the solenoid-operated valve fitted to the right hand side of the radiator.
New components include the rugged polyethylene petrol tank with a 40l/h pump; the non-return fuel circuit has quick-fit connections. The exhaust system has a "closed loop" lambda probe and the three way catalyser has been redesigned and optimized to meet Euro 3 requirements. The catalyser section on the silencer and the area around the passenger foot pegs have been covered with stainless steel protection. Maximum output has been increased to 39 kW at 7000 rpm at the crankshaft.
The Husqvarna TE 610 IE, will line up alongside the TE 250, TE 450 and TE 510 to complete the 2008 Husqvarna Enduro range. All Husqvarna road legal motorcycles have a factory endorsed 24-month parts and labor warranty.
The Husqvarna TE 610 IE will be priced at $11,995.00 + ORC and is now available through the Australian Husqvarna dealer network."
All new for 09 and able to munch up miles of slab with ease. It's not the full blown enduro weapon like the 450 of 510.
"Husqvarna has just landed its new TEW610 in the country, claiming a massive list of revisions and changes for the 52-hoprse $12,000 machine.
The manufacturer evidently has a fair bit of faith in the bike, offering a 24-month warranty.
Here is the factory blurb on the toy...
Introduction
The new Husqvarna TE 610 i.e. benefits from having many parts in common with other four-stroke, racing Enduro Husqvarna. With the new TE 610 i.e., Husqvarna intends to widen its range to include those less competition-minded riders who use their bikes every day and need more comfort and practicality but want to combine this with the thrill of owning a race bred bike.
The Husqvarna TE 610 i.e. is perfect for those of you that want a bike with muscle but also class.
The TE 610 i.e. combines a strong character with looks. Part of its brilliance comes from the chassis that has been tuned to cope with daily road use but the machine is still powered by one of the best engines in production today, especially in the low-medium rev band. The new version has had some highly significant modifications to the cylinder and head as well as now being fitted with a new electronic injection system that conforms to Euro 3 standards. The 610 TE i.e. now has an electronic injection system that was developed in collaboration with Mikuni.
The TE 610 i.e. is an Enduro/off-road bike that can be used for medium/long journeys yet has all the creature comforts you would normally find on a road bike. The 12.5 litre tank is fitted with a locking cap. The new digital instrumentation displays speed, time, mileage, rpm and has a trip-meter as well as the normal warning lights (indicators, full beam, dipped beam, service due etc.).
The handlebars and controls are very much along the same lines as the TE racing version and the riding position can be changed by adjusting the clamps where the handlebars are connected to the forks.
The rear arm is the same as used on the TE 450/510 models and has a new Sachs shock absorber with compression and rebound adjustment using a redesigned link. At the front is a pair of Marzocchi 45 mm inverted forks. The Brembo brakes feature a floating 4-caliper 260 mm front disc while rear braking is left to a 220 mm disc.
The TE 610 i.e. was also designed to allow for comfortably carrying a pillion passenger. The saddle has different density padding and anti-slip foot pegs. Thanks to special clips fitted to the rear chassis and mudguard, special side panniers and a main stand can be fitted as an optional extra. The rear mudguard has a new separate number plate carrier with an independent illumination light.
Engine
A balancing counter-shaft is fitted to the 610 engine to off-set the vibration one would normally expect with a large single cylinder unit. Lubrication is by means of two lobe type pumps. One pump supplies oil to the head and crankshaft, while the second pump draws oil from the crankcase and supplies it to the gearbox. Breathing is via a 4-valve, single overhead cam and twin arm rocker system with variable valve springs.
A new timing chain tensioner has also been introduced to further dampen noise. The 610 TE i.e. now has an electronic injection system that was developed in collaboration with Mikuni. The engine features a 42 mm throttle body with the starter command on the handlebars and there is now a 300 Kpa Mitsubishi "twin jet" fuel injector fitted to the throttle.
The pressure regulator (3 Bar) regulates any return of excess fuel to the tank and the MAQS (Modularized Air Quantity Sensor) consists of air temperature, mapping and TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) sensors. The Kokusan 360W three-phase ignition flywheel is also new. The water temperature sensor is positioned on the head. The injection ECU processes signals and governs the operation of the solenoid-operated valve fitted to the right hand side of the radiator.
New components include the rugged polyethylene petrol tank with a 40l/h pump; the non-return fuel circuit has quick-fit connections. The exhaust system has a "closed loop" lambda probe and the three way catalyser has been redesigned and optimized to meet Euro 3 requirements. The catalyser section on the silencer and the area around the passenger foot pegs have been covered with stainless steel protection. Maximum output has been increased to 39 kW at 7000 rpm at the crankshaft.
The Husqvarna TE 610 IE, will line up alongside the TE 250, TE 450 and TE 510 to complete the 2008 Husqvarna Enduro range. All Husqvarna road legal motorcycles have a factory endorsed 24-month parts and labor warranty.
The Husqvarna TE 610 IE will be priced at $11,995.00 + ORC and is now available through the Australian Husqvarna dealer network."
All new for 09 and able to munch up miles of slab with ease. It's not the full blown enduro weapon like the 450 of 510.
#24
03-14-2009, 03:52 AM
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: So.Cali
Posts: 674
Husqvarna TE 610 IE
I went to Monclair Motorsports and looked at the KLR650. Sat on it. I asked how much. He said, "$5500 + T&L"
To myself I think that is cheaper than I thought...
"That's not bad..." I retort "I did buy the KLX250S. So, they know I am not just a looky-loo. I'm trying to decide between the F650GS and this one. I must admit I like the beamer, but I also like the KLR650 price tag..."
"Where are the keys?" I continue. "I just test drove the F650GS down the street... I liked it... Let's see how this compares..."
Ha!... You should have seen the look on on his face. Deer in the headlights!
He just stood there...
"Well..." I said. "Let's do this."
I still have not riden the KLR650
#25
03-14-2009, 04:38 AM
That cause he knows then klr cannot touch that bmw for quallity engineering and smoooth highway.
Oh, my adv is the 640.....but is not in the same class as that beamer, just like the klr.....my adv is a hopped up klr....get the beamer, seems what ya want.
Oh, my adv is the 640.....but is not in the same class as that beamer, just like the klr.....my adv is a hopped up klr....get the beamer, seems what ya want.
#26
03-14-2009, 01:38 PM
Jump on this for $6300. Less than 800miles. Bargain.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437988
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437988
#28
03-15-2009, 02:24 AM
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: So.Cali
Posts: 674
After looking around I have narrowed it to two. (I think)
The KLR650 and the F650GS.
My financial side says the KLR650 will allow so much more farkle and trips.
I can have this with hard saddle bags and mods bla bla bla
My desires side says, spend the money once and it is gone. The beamer will be nicer to ride. Smoother, more power, better resale bla bla bla
Then I read things that make me wonder if the two machines are just too simalar to justify the double the cost difference to own the F650GS. Yea, I'll wafffle on this for another month or so then it will finally snap "and I'll know the right answer".
Which would you buy?
Why?
Thanks.
PS.
Anybody local (near Cal Poly Pomona) have a KLR650.
I'll trade an In-N-Out Double Double and Fries for a test drive
The KLR650 and the F650GS.
My financial side says the KLR650 will allow so much more farkle and trips.
I can have this with hard saddle bags and mods bla bla bla
My desires side says, spend the money once and it is gone. The beamer will be nicer to ride. Smoother, more power, better resale bla bla bla
Then I read things that make me wonder if the two machines are just too simalar to justify the double the cost difference to own the F650GS. Yea, I'll wafffle on this for another month or so then it will finally snap "and I'll know the right answer".
Which would you buy?
Why?
Thanks.
PS.
Anybody local (near Cal Poly Pomona) have a KLR650.
I'll trade an In-N-Out Double Double and Fries for a test drive
#29
03-16-2009, 01:03 AM
My vote : KLR 650. Dependable, affordable, lots of aftermarket parts, cheaper insurance? If I were riding off road alot and had dropped the bike I would rather damage the klr than the bmw. If I had lots of $ and did mostly pavement with a little dirt road the bmw would be nice.
#30
04-07-2010, 11:25 AM
i love these bikes whats there prices ??
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