hard to start?
i had a flat tire on my bike and it hs set n the garage for about a month. now i have a tire coming in this week and i decided to try to start up the bike and it won't start. i've tried choking, unchoking and everything. any thoughts
I have had the same problem; I block the muffler off with my palm for about 5-7 cranks and then let it go; the extra back pressure seems to help lightoff the "bad gas" (choke is on) no throttle! it has worked for me in the cold as well.
I'm always forgetting to drain the bowl! [>:]
I'm always forgetting to drain the bowl! [>:]
Drain the float bowl. Then from now on if you are going to let it set more than a day or two always turn the gas off and let it run out. This is called the deej procedure.
It's somewhere in the forum but I didn't find it.
It's somewhere in the forum but I didn't find it.
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Drain the float bowl. Then from now on if you are going to let it set more than a day or two always turn the gas off and let it run out. This is called the deej procedure.
It's somewhere in the forum but I didn't find it.
Drain the float bowl. Then from now on if you are going to let it set more than a day or two always turn the gas off and let it run out. This is called the deej procedure.
It's somewhere in the forum but I didn't find it.
I have been doing the deej method since I have owned my TTr and do the same with the klx.I reach down and turn my gas off about a 1/2 mile from home and let it idle itself dry while putting my gear away,after it stalls the first time pull the choke out and hit the starter 1 more time and it will idle itself completely dry.Now when I go out to ride I just turn the fuel on ,give one short twist of the throttle and choke it.Both bikes can sit for weeks and always start quick.[sm=smiley20.gif]
I remember reading somewhere on here that I should turn off the gas and let it run before shutting it off, but I couldn't remember when or why you were supposed to do it.
Hey guys, I was out hunting late bucks today, and saw this come across the Blackberry.[8D] I know I'm out of control. Anyhoo, I am honored that this easy starting procedure has been dubbed the deej procedure. However I can't take all of the credit. It was a mix of trial and error, reading other posts all over the net and personally talking to bike mechanics and racers. The short of it is that gas does change, and it may just boil down to how well your carb seals air out that allows this "change" that occurs over a few days or weeks. I was wondering if I should make the procedure a sticky at the top? What do you guys say? I will leave that up to you, I'm not trying to get self recognition, but if this procedure can help just one owner that is ready to pull his or her hair out trying to get the bike started, then its all worth it. Here is the link to the discussion if you want to read it all, and it is an interesting read to say the least. Then below that is the procedure I came up with, and feel free to quote it and edit it for content and then if everyone agrees I can post the procedure as a sticky and lock it.
https://www.kawasakiforums.com/m_96672/tm.htm
Shut down procedure.
1. After riding as you are pulling into your driveway, or to speed things up you can do this a block from your house, turn off the gas.
2. Let the bike run until it actually dies from gas starvation, (this may take 2-5 minutes) But that's ok it will give you time to put away your gear.
3. Park it and now you're ready for the next time you ride whether that be in a day, or a month.
Start up procedure.
1. Turn on the gas
2. Wait for 10 seconds
3. Start the bike as you always do
Now I know some of you are asking why not just drain the bowl and then you can start the bike. Well there are two reasons. It it harder to drain the bowl by hand than to let the bike do this as it runs out of gas, and by running the gas out using the motor, it assures that all of the small areas that would otherwise still have this junk they call fuel will be empty, ready for fresh, (fresher) gas to get in and do its job. Now all of that being said, I came up to work yesterday to let my son ride the moped up on the lawn and I cranked on the bike for a few minutes, and then I thought I wonder if I can drain the bowl and do the "after thought" procedure to get this thing going? Well I drained the bowl, turned the gas back on and two kicks and it was running. Keep in mind that the moped is a two stroke, and it has been sitting up at work in a mechanical room for about 2 months. So either way, whether running the gas out using the motor so you are ready to go next time (which I think is faster and more efficient) or you drain the bowl using the screw at the bottom of the carb, the results are the same, you get your bike started.
And I even guess some people would say that this is a hassle, but I gotta tell you that cranking on a bike for 5 minutes off and on only to run the battery down and still have not started the bike is way more of a hassle than a little time taken to get ready for the next ride. This last summer I rode my bike everyday for about 3 months, and it always started right up, but there are a couple of reasons. one it was warmer out, cold weather affects fuels in a negative way, and more importantly by riding the bike everyday I had gas in the bowl that didn't have enough time to "change". Next summer I will probably go back to leaving the gas on and not draining the bowl. but on the wife's bike the procedure will always be to run it out of gas since she doesn't ride as often as I do.

https://www.kawasakiforums.com/m_96672/tm.htm
Shut down procedure.
1. After riding as you are pulling into your driveway, or to speed things up you can do this a block from your house, turn off the gas.
2. Let the bike run until it actually dies from gas starvation, (this may take 2-5 minutes) But that's ok it will give you time to put away your gear.
3. Park it and now you're ready for the next time you ride whether that be in a day, or a month.
Start up procedure.
1. Turn on the gas
2. Wait for 10 seconds
3. Start the bike as you always do
Now I know some of you are asking why not just drain the bowl and then you can start the bike. Well there are two reasons. It it harder to drain the bowl by hand than to let the bike do this as it runs out of gas, and by running the gas out using the motor, it assures that all of the small areas that would otherwise still have this junk they call fuel will be empty, ready for fresh, (fresher) gas to get in and do its job. Now all of that being said, I came up to work yesterday to let my son ride the moped up on the lawn and I cranked on the bike for a few minutes, and then I thought I wonder if I can drain the bowl and do the "after thought" procedure to get this thing going? Well I drained the bowl, turned the gas back on and two kicks and it was running. Keep in mind that the moped is a two stroke, and it has been sitting up at work in a mechanical room for about 2 months. So either way, whether running the gas out using the motor so you are ready to go next time (which I think is faster and more efficient) or you drain the bowl using the screw at the bottom of the carb, the results are the same, you get your bike started.
And I even guess some people would say that this is a hassle, but I gotta tell you that cranking on a bike for 5 minutes off and on only to run the battery down and still have not started the bike is way more of a hassle than a little time taken to get ready for the next ride. This last summer I rode my bike everyday for about 3 months, and it always started right up, but there are a couple of reasons. one it was warmer out, cold weather affects fuels in a negative way, and more importantly by riding the bike everyday I had gas in the bowl that didn't have enough time to "change". Next summer I will probably go back to leaving the gas on and not draining the bowl. but on the wife's bike the procedure will always be to run it out of gas since she doesn't ride as often as I do.
One exception to this problem is a friend of mine has a 2004 TW 200 Yamaha, you know the one with the fat tires, and his bike can sit for months, and he pulls the choke and hits the e-start and boom it starts instantly. It is a different carb than the XT 225, but I'm just not sure why this makes a difference. Anyone want to take a guess?


