"The 13T with my current mods it lifts 1st and 2nd with minimal effort."

That is very interesting.. My bike will not wheelie (on power alone.) in second gear. Richard Avatar speaks of second gear wheelies as well... I wonder...

 

Mostly when speed shifting into 2nd gear at what is probably the fat part of the torque peak.

I haven't really tried to do a wheelie by cracking it open in 2nd. Wheelies are not part of my evaluation procedure or riding habits I guess



-Never thought of it actually.

 

Well I never did drill the carb...I wonder what significance that will have...

I'm running the 40 pilot which I think is too rich. In fact I tried starting the bike the other day with temps near 32f and it wouldn't start. Not even a hiccup.

 

You are correct, mine won't lift 2nd on power alone either. Just to be clear, when I say "minimal effort" I guess thats relative, haha. On power alone I still have to try a little and you've gotta have the "feel" in the power band to pop the front end even in first. With that being said the "minimal effort" in my case is non MCM with other current mods and a 13T in first or second I can pop it up easily, and a lot easier, with a quick pop of the clutch and revs. Before, it would still do it but you had to really work or sit behind the seat strap. Mind you, I'm only 140 pounds, so it doesn't take a whole lot to pop it up even if I'm sitting up by the tank. Also, FWIW, if you want to really be a hooligan and lift it up its probably better to sit on the strap or behind it and help the bike out more. I'd have to say more than anything its probably not the raw power of this fine 250 that gives it the snap, its just having the carb dialed in to the point that its nicely tuned and responsive. That was one of my issues the with MCM mod. You could do a really hard roll on and it was fine BUT if you cracked the throttle it bogged like crazy. If I got rid of the bog then I'd end up with a surge above 6K. I just never got it "ideal" and overall that killed the mod for me because I like broad power not give it hell or fall flat.

Also, aren't wheelies more scientific than dynos?

 

The undeniable science of Wheelies'.. Performance metric extraordinaire.. LOL

I'm just sniffin for mo-powah - thought I caught a whiff on your post with the 2nd gear wheelie thing..

It is hard for me to understand a MCM not doing anything other than what it is suppose to do - enhance power.. But since I haven't seen charts on standard stage 2 with slip-on, I have to keep an open mind..

 

Marcelino warned that it may not do much on a bike that had all the usual mods..

 

I think there was mention of it working a lot better on the EFI model, correct?

 

No, no mention of that by Marcelino. He did the work on a European EFI bike, not a carbureted one, being in Italy (I believe) rather than the U.S. No comparisons since only done on his own machine.

 

It does fascinate me that the MCM would ever be questioned at this point. We're talking 69 pages of info and positive findings over 4 years.. It works on all year models and all variations. Unfortunately Marcelino's dyno testing and findings do not correlate to anything we can use.( DIN Hp - and apparently at the crank according to Jeff Ward..) But the effects of the mod, done correctly, should be undeniable at this point.

 

I deny...deny it...deny it!