351 stuttering around 8k, jetting/mixture issue?
#1
351 stuttering around 8k, jetting/mixture issue?
Hi all, just noticed for the first time that my bike hit around 8k or so and hit what felt like a rev limiter. Never noticed this before i upgraded and thought i could get near the 10k or so redline.
Is this a mixture or jetting issue that I am not getting enough fuel (or too much) I went from a 128 DJ main stock pilot to a 132 main /40 pilot with the upgrade. Only really noticed it after i put the new pilot in, which doesnt make sense if that governs flow at low rpm. Slide is drilled and clip is wherever it is recommended out of the factory. fuel screw about 2 1/4 out now. Carby still not as good as when i put the original DJ 300 kit on and think it still needs some monkeying.
Also i am running the free mods, k&N filter, screen removed. Have the stock exhaust with pilot holes drilled throughout to try to relieve pressure. Suppose too much back pressure could be a possibility now at that volume. Anticipating going up to a q4 soon but not there yet. Operation about about 7K just doesnt feel as smooth as I would think it should.
Any suggestions on this one?
Is this a mixture or jetting issue that I am not getting enough fuel (or too much) I went from a 128 DJ main stock pilot to a 132 main /40 pilot with the upgrade. Only really noticed it after i put the new pilot in, which doesnt make sense if that governs flow at low rpm. Slide is drilled and clip is wherever it is recommended out of the factory. fuel screw about 2 1/4 out now. Carby still not as good as when i put the original DJ 300 kit on and think it still needs some monkeying.
Also i am running the free mods, k&N filter, screen removed. Have the stock exhaust with pilot holes drilled throughout to try to relieve pressure. Suppose too much back pressure could be a possibility now at that volume. Anticipating going up to a q4 soon but not there yet. Operation about about 7K just doesnt feel as smooth as I would think it should.
Any suggestions on this one?
#4
Here are the numbers when I was running the 351 with the stock carb and pipe.
40 pilot jet
2.5 turns fuel screw
Dynojet needle, on the top notch, meaning: leanest setting
140 main
Thanks,
Bake
40 pilot jet
2.5 turns fuel screw
Dynojet needle, on the top notch, meaning: leanest setting
140 main
Thanks,
Bake
Last edited by Bake; 10-31-2009 at 02:44 AM.
#5
Ride on
Brewster
#6
bake, looking at that graph, its probally best to shift at 7 or so. shifting at the peak of power means you have to drop off more than if you go pass it a bit. yes, it may only mean a tenth of a second or so, but racings racing if your like me.
#7
i guess if you were running it down the 1/4 mile,,,, you could shift it at 6,550 if you had an air operated shifter and a shift light.
The average individual will shift when they feel the power drop off,, and then through time learn to shift just before the power drops off.
Riding in the dirt,,,, i dont think anyone has ever used or needed a tach.
The average individual will shift when they feel the power drop off,, and then through time learn to shift just before the power drops off.
Riding in the dirt,,,, i dont think anyone has ever used or needed a tach.
#8
Bigger bore can pull more vacuum at the nozzle which can pull more fuel with the same size jet. Why in some cases you don't need to rejet as much as you think.
With the cv carb the differential in pressure/vacuum on either side of the carb cnalso change with the increase in vacuum. So if the slide and spring was modded pre bigbore it can be acting a little different.
With the cv carb the differential in pressure/vacuum on either side of the carb cnalso change with the increase in vacuum. So if the slide and spring was modded pre bigbore it can be acting a little different.
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