US - 9 out of 10 people have firearm
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 179
From: Poland
RE: US - 9 out of 10 people have firearm
I kinda figured that those numbers are pushed up by thefact that a lot of you have more then one gun. Sorbak, I bet you any money that at least half the people out there have a gun because of this paranoia, but its not because they thinktheir neighbours have a gun and are out to shoot them for playing music too loud, rather it's you thinking about how likely is it that a random event where you will find yourself in confrontation with a stranger will end up with them having a firearm and well, using it to back up their argument. I'll read that fact book, though I don't think it will swing me either way - the fact is you are less likely to get shot in a country where there are strict gun control rules, but then again this doesn't mean that theres less crime just because there is less guns. You might get stabbed instead and then you're just as dead.
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 179
From: Poland
RE: US - 9 out of 10 people have firearm
Ok, I've read that fact book, focused on pages 10-13 about licensing guns. This is just quoting some selected facts taken out of wider context toback upa previously stated thesis. This will not convince me, I mean saying that gun registration will lead to gun confiscation and giving **** Germany as an example is sooo stretched - come on, those firearms were not confiscated because they were registered, rather it was the **** government wanting to make sure they were in total control of everything that went on in Germany at that time. Same with Soviet Georgia example.
Another "busted myth" is that registration did not stop use of unregistered weapons - well, duh, since theres so many of those things around, thats just the case "Large Numbers Law". The point of registration is to limit the number of guns, period. You may view you right to bear arms as your fundamental right and its OK, since you are a responsible and non violent individual (right?
j/k ), but what I'm concerned about is the fact that some nut who draws swastikas on walls and dreams of gutting his classmates has that right too. You see where I'm getting.
Note there is no notion of hard statistical data on gun crime around the world (especialy in Europe and Japan) in corelation to accessability of firearms.
Another "busted myth" is that registration did not stop use of unregistered weapons - well, duh, since theres so many of those things around, thats just the case "Large Numbers Law". The point of registration is to limit the number of guns, period. You may view you right to bear arms as your fundamental right and its OK, since you are a responsible and non violent individual (right?
j/k ), but what I'm concerned about is the fact that some nut who draws swastikas on walls and dreams of gutting his classmates has that right too. You see where I'm getting. Note there is no notion of hard statistical data on gun crime around the world (especialy in Europe and Japan) in corelation to accessability of firearms.
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,484
From: Land of Sun, Sand and Thorns - AZ
RE: US - 9 out of 10 people have firearm
ORIGINAL: Finger Mullet
You forgot one additional stat Nik.... 8 out of 10 own multiple guns and 7 out of 10 own an assault weapon
It's our 1st amendment to the Constitution.....remember we're rebels from England....We will not allow our Government to get too powerful to dictate any rule against our Citizens.....kinda keeps Big Brother in check.
The government knows this and does not want 300 million ARMED citizen protesting and rebelling against the Washington.
Being from Poland you should fully understand the problem with an all powerful government and no checks from the people.
You forgot one additional stat Nik.... 8 out of 10 own multiple guns and 7 out of 10 own an assault weapon
It's our 1st amendment to the Constitution.....remember we're rebels from England....We will not allow our Government to get too powerful to dictate any rule against our Citizens.....kinda keeps Big Brother in check.
The government knows this and does not want 300 million ARMED citizen protesting and rebelling against the Washington.
Being from Poland you should fully understand the problem with an all powerful government and no checks from the people.
Doug Stanhope says it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTOQhPd2Xh4
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,332
RE: US - 9 out of 10 people have firearm
ORIGINAL: niklucas
This will not convince me, I mean saying that gun registration will lead to gun confiscation and giving **** Germany as an example is sooo stretched - come on, those firearms were not confiscated because they were registered, rather it was the **** government wanting to make sure they were in total control of everything that went on in Germany at that time. Same with Soviet Georgia example.
This will not convince me, I mean saying that gun registration will lead to gun confiscation and giving **** Germany as an example is sooo stretched - come on, those firearms were not confiscated because they were registered, rather it was the **** government wanting to make sure they were in total control of everything that went on in Germany at that time. Same with Soviet Georgia example.
ORIGINAL: niklucas
The point of registration is to limit the number of guns, period. You may view you right to bear arms as your fundamental right and its OK, since you are a responsible and non violent individual (right?j/k ), but what I'm concerned about is the fact that some nut who draws swastikas on walls and dreams of gutting his classmates has that right too. You see where I'm getting.
The point of registration is to limit the number of guns, period. You may view you right to bear arms as your fundamental right and its OK, since you are a responsible and non violent individual (right?
j/k ), but what I'm concerned about is the fact that some nut who draws swastikas on walls and dreams of gutting his classmates has that right too. You see where I'm getting.
"Note there is no notion of hard statistical data on gun crime around the world (especialy in Europe and Japan) in corelation to accessability of firearms."
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,332
RE: US - 9 out of 10 people have firearm
ORIGINAL: klx250s_rider
Yeah, even though we have all these guns we still have a screwed up government which is becoming more and more powerful and its citizens are becoming weaker and are more scared of the government than ever before! I think we all just need bigger ***** and start voicing our opinions more instead of buying a sh*t load of guns to kill our neighbors with when the whole structure falls apart - IMO!
Doug Stanhope says it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTOQhPd2Xh4
Yeah, even though we have all these guns we still have a screwed up government which is becoming more and more powerful and its citizens are becoming weaker and are more scared of the government than ever before! I think we all just need bigger ***** and start voicing our opinions more instead of buying a sh*t load of guns to kill our neighbors with when the whole structure falls apart - IMO!
Doug Stanhope says it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTOQhPd2Xh4
My post was a humble attempt to explain the INTENDED purpose of the First Amendment.
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,024
From:
RE: US - 9 out of 10 people have firearm
Acorrding to John Locke the government has a duty to protect the lives, property, and rights of its people and if the government fails at doing so, it is the civic duty of the people to rebel against the government.Every government fails at some point, andI dont want to go down with the ship.
