Count me in.

I realize that being in Canuckistan means a bump up in shipping.

 

This is another one of those "how I would want it if I buy it" thing.

If I bought this thing I would want it all to be there to install, shorter bolts if needed and a gasket. It is more about a good deal for the rider than making a buck. That's why I asked about pricing. If it needs to be priced to fit the rider's pocket - what they would be willing to spend. That's why the tensioner is $36 instead of just undercutting the others by only a five spot. I'd rather make it so a bunch of riders get the value I would want versus maximizing profits.

I guess when it comes to bikes I'm a lousy business operator from the bottom line point of view.

 

With shorter bolts and gasket and part I wouldnt pay more than $25 shipping included.

Around or over $30 its almost better the plug it up with rubber (from the consumer pov)

 

As I said, I'm thinking under $20 shipped within the U.S. Probably have to see if I can get creative for Canada and the world. Maybe skip the bolts, they'd be easy enough to source, then it could be sent out with gasket in a regular envelope. I'll investigate that.

I love playing with new things, making the drawings and trying it out. I wish I could afford the time and money.

Just looked up the price, under $4 for an envelope containing a rigid object for Australia and the rest of the world excluding Canada and the US, both of which should be lower. It has to be less than $20 shipped.

 

Sounds like a plan! Looks like you're going to have to expand that website haha!

 

I'd be very interested in a blockoff plate as well. I already have your tensioner and it is QUALITY

Also the thing about sourcing bolts locally is a good idea for us living in other countries. There is a 25% tax and a $30 flat fee on importing anything over $17 here. So if you could send it in an an envelope rather than a package, that would be awesome as there is lower chance of customs catching it then

It really sucks when you want relatively cheap items from the states, not only do you have to pay the shipping, but also all the ridiculous customs fees.

Moving to Germany next year, can't wait, everything will be cheaper.

 

First, my prime question. The $17 limit, is that for the cost listed on the package? Not that I plan to put on lower values - legal penalties possible - but that would set a top limit for this item. I only list the part cost on the customs form, not including the shipping.

The bolts can actually be cut down to suit, grinding or filing the tip a bit to get it to thread in cleanly. I think you guys in Europe have one advantage when it comes to this - metric is the standard and that would be what would be most common to find, isn't it?

 

Well its a bit more complicated than that. I also suspect it it be different from country to country, even within the EU. The numbers I gave above were my guestimates, I just checked the actual numbers, although they change a little bit depending on currency values. This is all for Denmark only. I know of a guy in Sweden who says he often orders big things such as motorcycle exhausts and whatnot from the US without customs bothering to tax it, but Danish authorities are very vigilant.

Anything costing $14 gets no tax, VAT or import fee's. Anything over does. That means if you buy something for $14 thats all you pay, but if it costs $14.5 it will cost $47 USD here.

Usually they look at what price is on the package and the receipt, but if there is no price or receipt they might hold the package until you provide proof or purchase or a receipt. They will also do this for undervalued packages if it seems to unrealistic. I.e. items that obviously cost more than listed. (They open and check).
The price taxed is the FULL price so item + shipping, but if shipping is listed as free, they dont care about it in my experience. So better price the item higher and have no shipping costs because they will tax it anyway.

Also, mostly they look at packages. I am not even sure they check envelopes. A small envelope with the receipt inside would probably slip through easily while still being legal? Im not sure what the laws are on your side.

Usually the bigger your package is, the higher the chance of them checking it. (Ok that sounds ridiculous now that I read it out loud. )

As for the bolts. Yes, metric is the standard here and I think the most common type should be easily sourcable.

 

That helps me. The USPS customs form only lists the value of the contents. The postage cost is on the stamp they use, not on the customs form.

I don't raise shipping costs, they are exactly what I pay. The only place I've ever done anything like that is on ebay to cover the fees.

In a side note, you'd think with my name showing on an ebay listing the person might actually look up the part and find my site. Many don't, it costs them up to $7 more, plus I pay another $2 for the ebay fees. We would both save money if they just did a search on Krieger tensioners or the like. I always do a search if I can identify a name on an item to see if there is a better direct deal or just for reviews on the product. Oh well...

Big plus. Now my goal is $14!

 

I just tried to see if I could find some information about shipping into the UK to see how their rules compare to Danish rules but I cant really find anything good. There is an online customs calculator for Denmark, but I cant seem to find one for the UK.

And I totally agree with your ebay thing. I always try to find out if the vendor has their own page and then go through that if its cheaper.

I'm pretty sure VAT is the same og very similar most places in Europe, but I am not so sure about the flat fee on small items. The thing is, its our national postal service that charges this flat fee that makes buying small/cheap items so expensive. so maybe if you use a private company that ships directly from USA to Europe without going through national postal services it might be better

UPS, DHL or something might be able to do it cheaper? Those are represented here as well.