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Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 04:26 PM

Need help deciding guys!
 
So I have a dilemma and need you guys to help.

I've read the 06/07 vs 09/up KLX250s threads and I know the differences but my situation is unique.

I've got an offer to trade my DRZ for the following bikes and don't know which to choose.

06' KLX250s with 2907 miles, just about brand new, HMF exhaust, jetted, new tires(dunlop606) - 4 hours to drive and get it
09' KLX250s with 4023 miles, fairly used(broken plastics), FMF exhaust jetted, skid plate, rear rack, bark busters - 8 hours to drive and get it.

I like the idea of the extra suspension travel and lighter weight of the 06 but I would get a bike closer to my dollar on the 09'

I need help deciding which I should trade for, I do 50/50 trail to road driving, I weigh 155lbs and I'm 6'0 tall.

My head is telling me to go for the 09 just because it's newer but I believe the 06(less miles than the 09) will "fit" me better.

Hope you guys have some valid points for both :D

Landon 11-19-2012 05:14 PM

Not sure you can go wrong with either one. Both of them there will probably be personal things that you will want to do to your bike to make it the way you like it.

Which bike in its current state is closest to how you would set up your bike from stock? Do you plan to keeping it long term or not?

cmott426 11-19-2012 05:25 PM

Unless the DRZ is too tall, I would keep it.
The weight difference is negligible between the 06, 07 and the 09+.
I like my 09. But the 06 sounds like a better deal with less miles and no broken plastic.

IDRIDR 11-19-2012 05:26 PM

Only about 1000 miles difference, and the '09 is beat more than the '06?

I'm a fan of the older model because I like the looks better and think it may be a little more trail worthy (but not a whole lot more). The weight difference isn't much.

The HMF exhaust is likely louder than the FMF. I know, I just replaced the HMF performance with an FMF Q4.

Plastics are not cheap.

EDIT: Have you been on and ridden a KLX250 yet? I'm just a bit over 6' with 34" inseam, and I found that the Guts Racing tall seat made a world of comfort difference for me. I felt squished when riding close to the tank on the stock seat and just hated it. The GR tall seat is available for '06/07 but not newer models.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Landon (Post 485589)
Not sure you can go wrong with either one. Both of them there will probably be personal things that you will want to do to your bike to make it the way you like it.

Which bike in its current state is closest to how you would set up your bike from stock? Do you plan to keeping it long term or not?

Long term plans, the 06 is closer, I would save around 200 just in gas from picking it up. I like the looks of the 09 more but I don't like the idea of less suspension travel, shorter handlebars, etc... but that front light sure does look mean :eek:


Originally Posted by cmott426 (Post 485590)
Unless the DRZ is too tall, I would keep it.
The weight difference is negligible between the 06, 07 and the 09+.
I like my 09. But the 06 sounds like a better deal with less miles and no broken plastic.

The drz is too tall, wears it's weight high, and a bit too much bike for me in general. Love the bike on the street but I have a hard time throwing it around on the tight little trails by my house.


Originally Posted by IDRIDR (Post 485591)
Only about 1000 miles difference, and the '09 is beat more than the '06?

I'm a fan of the older model because I like the looks better and think it may be a little more trail worthy (but not a whole lot more). The weight difference isn't much.

The HMF exhaust is likely louder than the FMF. I know, I just replaced the HMF performance with an FMF Q4.

Plastics are not cheap.

Yeah I'm wondering how much louder the HMF is going to be, both are slip on's and I was thinking of going with a full exhaust later anyway. The 09 has some broken plastics, scratches, but I was okay with that until I saw the condition of the 06, it looks new with the exception of a few very minor scrapes scratches on the engine casing(the 09 has those as well).

I will be commuting with the bike, so a comfortable seat will be a big deal (the drz did not have that even with an aftermarket cover). I know the design is different but what about comfort levels between the 06 and 09?

Thanks for your replies guys!

Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 05:56 PM

pictures
 
Here is the 06, it seems to be in great shape, needs a new chain but that seems to be it, and as stated 2907 miles. I think its in immaculate shape for an 06, but could use some more input.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...893923148e.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ng/KLXLeft.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...118_130556.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...118_130702.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...118_130718.jpg

IDRIDR 11-19-2012 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Pauls2ndblessing (Post 485592)
Long term plans, the 06 is closer, I would save around 200 just in gas from picking it up. I like the looks of the 09 more but I don't like the idea of less suspension travel, shorter handlebars, etc... but that front light sure does look mean :eek:



The drz is too tall, wears it's weight high, and a bit too much bike for me in general. Love the bike on the street but I have a hard time throwing it around on the tight little trails by my house.



Yeah I'm wondering how much louder the HMF is going to be, both are slip on's and I was thinking of going with a full exhaust later anyway. The 09 has some broken plastics, scratches, but I was okay with that until I saw the condition of the 06, it looks new with the exception of a few very minor scrapes scratches on the engine casing(the 09 has those as well).

I will be commuting with the bike, so a comfortable seat will be a big deal (the drz did not have that even with an aftermarket cover). I know the design is different but what about comfort levels between the 06 and 09?

Thanks for your replies guys!

Unless you are beating it hard, I'm guessing that you'll notice little difference between suspension travel differences. A lot of us upgrade handlebars and/or install risers so that's probably a minor issue.

For long ride commuting and improved comfort, you may wind up with an aftermarket seat on either model, so that probably washes. The stock seats on both models are often referred to as 2x4's.

Haven't ridden a '09+ so cannot comment on comfort differences between the two models.

6th gear in the older model is taller than on the newer models, which could play in your decision especially for commuting use.

edit: that's a very clean looking '06. It even has some additional lighting. DO NOT leave the kickstand down when strapping down tight for transport on a trailer or pickup bed. And that HMF can is different than mine.

cmott426 11-19-2012 06:05 PM

Is this a straight up trade? I think the DRZ is worth more than either KLX. From the looks of the pictures I would go with the 06.

cmott426 11-19-2012 06:09 PM

But on the other hand since you said the DRZ was too tall, the 09 might work better for you. They are one inch shorter. I went from a WR426 to the KLX. With the lower seat High the KLX is way better in the tight stuff.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by IDRIDR (Post 485594)
Unless you are beating it hard, I'm guessing that you'll notice little difference between suspension travel differences. A lot of us upgrade handlebars and/or install risers so that's probably a minor issue.

For long ride commuting and improved comfort, you may wind up with an aftermarket seat on either model, so that probably washes. The stock seats on both models are often referred to as 2x4's.

Haven't ridden a '09+ so cannot comment on comfort differences between the two models.

6th gear in the older model is taller than on the newer models, which could play in your decision especially for commuting use.

edit: that's a very clean looking '06. It even has some additional lighting. DO NOT leave the kickstand down when strapping down tight for transport on a trailer or pickup bed. And that HMF can is different than mine.

Thanks for the replies, in general the 06 "looks" like its in better condition aesthetically, mechanically I believe both have been taken care of pretty well.


Originally Posted by cmott426 (Post 485595)
Is this a straight up trade? I think the DRZ is worth more than either KLX. From the looks of the pictures I would go with the 06.

The drz is worth more than the 06 but not the 09 but I'm sticking with the bike for the long haul so I'm not worried about resale.


Originally Posted by cmott426 (Post 485597)
But on the other hand since you said the DRZ was too tall, the 09 might work better for you. They are one inch shorter. I went from a WR426 to the KLX. With the lower seat High the KLX is way better in the tight stuff.

Spec wise the 06 says the seat height is 34.8 and 09 says 35"? So I was assuming they'd both be about the same height.

cmott426 11-19-2012 06:39 PM

I never looked at the 06, Just thought they where taller do to having over an inch of wheel travel more.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by cmott426 (Post 485599)
I never looked at the 06, Just thought they where taller do to having over an inch of wheel travel more.

Ah I gotchya, yeah the suspension travel is different. I'm having a hard time deciding on this one haha I guess it's "first world problems" eh?

wildcard 11-19-2012 08:10 PM

I would get the 06, sounds like the 09 has been beat and has higher miles.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 09:31 PM

Leaning toward the 09 I think
 

Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 485602)
I would get the 06, sounds like the 09 has been beat and has higher miles.

I wouldn't say beat up, just "ridden" as it's a trail bike to him. The only "beat up" part is the radiator shroud, which I'll be getting a acrebis tank any how. The tires have more wear but are still in decent shape.

I may be leaning more towards the 09 but haven't decided 100% yet

I know I'll be happy with either so I'm just hoping I can get one done soon so I can start with the project.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by IDRIDR (Post 485591)
Only about 1000 miles difference, and the '09 is beat more than the '06?

EDIT: Have you been on and ridden a KLX250 yet? I'm just a bit over 6' with 34" inseam, and I found that the Guts Racing tall seat made a world of comfort difference for me. I felt squished when riding close to the tank on the stock seat and just hated it. The GR tall seat is available for '06/07 but not newer models.

I haven't ridden one yet, I have sat on the 09' at a dealer and it fit me much better than the DRZ, I'm 5'11" with a 32 inseam.

The 09' has been used but what scares me about the 06, is how much it hasn't been used, I sometimes prefer a bike that has stayed moving than one that's sat up.

All in all, I feel like I'm in a pretty good predicament :D

IDRIDR 11-19-2012 10:25 PM

Good call on the Acerbis tank.
You know that it fits the 06/07 just a little better than the 09+ models. Still works for the later ones, but doesn't match up with the seat as well, and you may need to move the wiring harness.
KLX-250s Acerbis Tank - gsnorcal's Photos

Landon 11-19-2012 10:45 PM

If you want an acerbis tank I would go with the 06.

TNC 11-19-2012 11:44 PM

That's a very clean '06. All models of the KLX are very good, but the '06 has a slight edge because of that travel if any real off roading is a priority. It has basically the same dimension fork and shock as the KLX300 at 11.0" and 11.2". This allows you to use the suspension mods such as revalving and springs from the 300 which are readily available. Even just as is in stock condition, if you're going to do some rougher trail riding, the '06 will have a slight advantage. Yeah, on the saddle height, both models have almost the same height for some reason. If you're that in love with the '09 headlight, there are some very slick aftermarket setups that look as good or better that are relatively easy to install on the '06. You probably can't screw the deal up by going with either bike. I have an '06, and the travel was important to me. It may not be as important to you for your needs.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-19-2012 11:52 PM

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Thanks for all the help guys, I think I'm going to go with the 09, after looking over a few things, I believe it's the best choice for me at the moment and with only 4023 miles, skid plate, extra parts, fmf exhaust, handlebars and barkbusters, I think it'll bring lots of fun! The shroud is not a HUGE priority for me at the moment and will look into replacing it later.

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Thanks again for everything and I will post a report once I get it!

Landon 11-20-2012 02:02 AM

Congrats on deciding, I know how hard it can be. Both look like great bikes. The acerbis in my opinion looks bad on the 09's, but there are other options for a bigger tank that don't effect the looks.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-20-2012 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Landon (Post 485615)
Congrats on deciding, I know how hard it can be. Both look like great bikes. The acerbis in my opinion looks bad on the 09's, but there are other options for a bigger tank that don't effect the looks.

Thanks Landon, I've looked into the IMS option that keeps the stock shrouds, seems like a viable option besides the acrebis. I believe the 09 will bring lots of fun, the owner of the 06 seemed a little upset that I cancelled our time to meet and look at each others bikes, I do feel bad for that, but I think the 09 made more sense on a straight trade.

So I'll be driving up to South Carolina in 2 weeks to look at and trade for the 09 if all looks well! I can't wait, going to be a long 2 weeks!

cmott426 11-20-2012 01:54 PM

If you are going to do any off-road with it, change out that front tire. That is the most likely reason why the shroud is broke. The less wheel travel really doesn’t affect me. I have yet to bottom the front and I have tried. No, I don’t do large jumps but I do get some air and hit some fairly square edges at times. I took a tie-wrap and put in on the lower leg, went for a ride and the tire wrap was still about 1-2 inches from bottoming out. I have bottom the rear out. But it has a nice bump stop so it isn’t too bad. If you do find the need to, there are after marked springs and re-valves. The 09 has compression clickers on the forks but no rebound or air bleeder like the older models. The Shock has both compression and rebound on all years.

This is just my theory....since the 09 has less rear wheel travel but uses the same shock and spring rate (correct me if I am wrong), that equals to a stiffer suspension then the older models.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-20-2012 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by cmott426 (Post 485635)
If you are going to do any off-road with it, change out that front tire. That is the most likely reason why the shroud is broke. The less wheel travel really doesn’t affect me. I have yet to bottom the front and I have tried. No, I don’t do large jumps but I do get some air and hit some fairly square edges at times. I took a tie-wrap and put in on the lower leg, went for a ride and the tire wrap was still about 1-2 inches from bottoming out. I have bottom the rear out. But it has a nice bump stop so it isn’t too bad. If you do find the need to, there are after marked springs and re-valves. The 09 has compression clickers on the forks but no rebound or air bleeder like the older models. The Shock has both compression and rebound on all years.

This is just my theory....since the 09 has less rear wheel travel but uses the same shock and spring rate (correct me if I am wrong), that equals to a stiffer suspension then the older models.

Thanks man, I will be changing the front tire to a Pirelli XCMH as soon as I get it, then when the back wears, another d606 or a shinko 244(have them on my dr200se and like them) will go on. He caught the shroud on a tree and it snapped.

Seems strange they didn't add air bleeders on the forks? I will be revalving and springing the bike to my weight later, for now I'm just going to enjoy it :)

Thanks for all your replies and help!
Paul

IDRIDR 11-20-2012 04:53 PM

I bottomed out forks before installing gold valves, even with stiffer springs, riding through the whoops.

Haven't bottomed them out since valving.

Pauls2ndblessing 11-20-2012 05:08 PM

Man... I go up the 8th... can't freaking wait!

dan888 11-20-2012 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Pauls2ndblessing (Post 485643)
He caught the shroud on a tree and it snapped. l

Been there, done that ....................a few times :(
These shrouds stick out quite a bit.

Hope all works out well with the trade.
Dan

Pauls2ndblessing 11-21-2012 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by dan888 (Post 485657)
Been there, done that ....................a few times :(
These shrouds stick out quite a bit.

Hope all works out well with the trade.
Dan

Thanks Dan, I think it'll work out fine, if it doesn't then it just wasn't meant to be with that klx but I will have one. The guy I'm trading with seems like a good guy so I think it'll be good.

I'm ready to start farkeling the bike to get it personalized and to get back to the trails which I've been missing more than I thought I would.

Paul


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