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Subseageorge 07-10-2017 05:28 AM

KLX engine suspension, steering upgrade.
 
Well guys,
Got it out for the first run today.
Completely different bike.
Still to fine tune the fuelling but its wicked.
So much more usable power.
And the handling is awesome.
I fitted racetech springs , gold valves.
A WER steering damper,
And Outex triple clamp braces.

Handling and steering are fantastic now, so responsive.

Still to finish running it in but i think the high speed wobble will be fixed.

I would like to thank everyone for their input when i came across problems.

George

sphen 07-10-2017 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by Subseageorge (Post 537205)
Well guys,
Got it out for the first run today.
Completely different bike.
Still to fine tune the fuelling but its wicked.
So much more usable power.
And the handling is awesome.
I fitted racetech springs , gold valves.
A WER steering damper,
And Outex triple clamp braces.

Handling and steering are fantastic now, so responsive.

Still to finish running it in but i think the high speed wobble will be fixed.

I would like to thank everyone for their input when i came across problems.

George

would like to know what all you did - have a build thread?

Subseageorge 07-11-2017 01:17 AM

No, But there are a lot of pictures on my profile of the work.
331 BB kit.
Ported head with 1" bigger intake valves.
New clutch,
New stator. (Earth modification done at the time)
EJK fuel controller set up for 331 cc
FMF power bomb and Q4 exhaust.
K&N air filter.
330 mm front brake disc upgrade.
Rear shock . Fitted new Racetech spring and gold valve kit.
Front forks fitted fitted Racetech springs and gold valve kit.
Installed WER steering damper and new head bearings.
1.75 " lowering kit.
Outex fork triple clamp brace fitted.

Going to do another 50 KM today then change the oil and filter.
Change the coolant hoses and coolant.
Fit a new oil and water pump.
And continue with the fuel settings, (Looks like its running rich with the settings at present with the air box lid off.

Subseageorge 07-14-2017 10:49 AM

Still trying to get the fuelling right, EJK controller is at its lowest settings and just doesnt run the same with the lid and KDX snorkel on. Bit lumpy unless full throttle. then at 8,000rpm just gets really lumpy and stops pulling. plug out and its really black, Too much juice. So i took the lid off completely and tried again ,, Holy ****, nearly came off the back when leaving the house, hehehhe, What a difference, but have the intake noise now. Will take it for another 30 km blast tomorrow to check the plug again,, I think i might have an issue with the TPS also. FI light has been on since i bought the bike. I assumed it was because it had a TBR juice box fitted but now i read that it should not be on ,, All fun and games. The saga continues. Looks like i will have to change sprockets. might try a 15T / 51T combo.

outrecording 07-15-2017 05:53 AM

Is your EJK their stock unit for the 331? I ask because when I got mine it wouldn't work. It would just barely start at the highest settings but WAY too lean. Thought they sent me a 250 unit. Put my second EJK I had from my 250 on and definitely different...wouldn't start at all. Anyway, sent it back and they said they found a program/map from Japan that gives a lot more juice. (Had some code marked on the back) Worked like a charm. It sits around the lower numbers, 2 or 3.

I've always wondered if something was off with my build or something wrong with the EJK's original settings. Been 7000km's and all is well.

Subseageorge 07-15-2017 12:32 PM

Yes, it is the one for the 331. I had one originally a TBR juice box which came with the bike. I have fabricated a new lid for my air box to get rid of some of the intake growl, but works like a ram air at top speed. This seems to be working very well. Bit rough as i did not want to spend much time on it until i saw whether it worked or not. Its pulling 10,000rpm in top gear at the moment. and i think i can still fine tune the EJK controller a little bit. I will post some pics of the Ram air airbox lid i made. I think it pulls fast from 80 kph to 130 with the ram air lid on. But just did it today and drove about 50km with it. So will let ya all know how i get on.
PS
Is you FI light on when you installed your EJK ?
Mine has been on since i bought the bike but just thought it was the juicebox .

Subseageorge 07-15-2017 02:32 PM

Thought i would try and put a ram air lid on top of my air box to cut the noise down,

https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...-1479-4226.jpg

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Much less intake noise, And pulls stronger from 50 kph up . Still messing with the fueling to see if i can get it better.

Subseageorge 07-15-2017 02:36 PM

Local Indonesian exhaust against a standard exhaust, (Although it maybe be a KLX 300 header.) Not sure.. The Indo one has a really small pipe at the start of the header opening right up to the enormous size going onto the end can.

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outrecording 07-16-2017 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Subseageorge (Post 537380)
PS
Is you FI light on when you installed your EJK ?
Mine has been on since i bought the bike but just thought it was the juicebox .

Mine never came on. I'm wondering what's causing yours to come on? Could try reading the fault code to point you in the direction. I had an issue once with the rpm's staying around 3.5k at idle. Error code said it was the throttle body sensor. Dealership found it was dirty. After a cleaning, it worked fine.

Subseageorge 07-16-2017 04:49 AM

Yes, I read your post. I am going to take the throttle body off and have a look. i wanted to remove the second butterfly from it but not sure how to , and cannot see any clear instructions on here how to do it. I will do a diagnostics before i take it apart. to see what error code im getting .

Subseageorge 07-16-2017 04:53 AM

I am going to cut that Indonesian header also so i can use the cross over to try my KLX 300 Works header (Or so i was told) and the FMF header. Change the Q4 slip on and the Indonesian R9 slip on. See what it feels like. The Indo header has an ID of 30mm , The KLX 300 has an ID of 36mm where it joins to the head. So i will take the FMF power bomb off to measure inside. see what it is, But today is get drunk day. So it will be tomorrow now.. :P

Subseageorge 07-17-2017 03:16 PM

Today, I messed around with some exhaust combinations for fun and too see what if any big difference the FMF / Q4 had with the Indo straight through 55mm with a Kawasaki 300 works header. The straight through is loud, way to loud but the bike pulls much better from 6K to 9K . So im going to put the FMF system back on. Looked into why my FI light has always been on, Found that the O2 sensor was disconnected with no by pass plug fitted. So i fitted a bypass plug that i had, O2 light is out now but the bikes running rough. I have removed the throttle body to take out the secondary butterfly. Will reinstall tomorrow.

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Throttle body butterfly removal.

https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...-1493-4247.jpg

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Cheers

Subseageorge 07-18-2017 08:46 AM

Well after cleaning it all up and reinstalling the throttle body, FMF power bomb and Q4 can, I started the bike. Running very smooth.
Took the bike out and yes, this is getting so close now although the bike is so low geared.
Changed the front sprocket for a 15 tooth. so running 15T / 49T . Took the bike out again .. Amazing. This is turning into what i imagine it to be when i started. Next thing is i want to try a 46T rear to see what difference that makes. But my little Indo adventure touring bike is coming together. I still think that i can refine the fueling somewhat. Still wheelies in 1st and 2nd but does 135kph.

blz2dwl 07-20-2017 01:10 AM

I'm intrigued by your intake cover. Do you really think it cut down on the noise? I thought about doing something similar, but then I figured that the seat bottom was already between me and the air filter, so how would another thin piece of plastic dampen the sound that much? If yours is working, I'm encouraged to try it too.

Subseageorge 07-20-2017 10:26 AM

Yes, I think at full throttle about 50% .

Dont know why,, I am at the stage of just trying little things. to see what works for me, As as you are aware everyone is different in what they want from their bike. That is the magical thing about the KLX , It can be adjusted for many different peoples styles.

I cut the bottom of a Tupperware container and JB welded it round 3 sides so its sealed apart from the front. I used the OEM airbox cover so i could bolt it in and out. Thought i would try it before running lidless. I had a KDX snorkel but it was restricting the bike big time with the 331 kit.
Hope that helps.
I have lots of pics if you need any more help. or want to see better,

George


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