reread my post- i did not say that. i said that it would make more power than a 300cc kit alone and yes i guarantee that- easily. the 300 kit doesn't really make more power, just a little more torque. you'll have to punch it out to 350cc to really gain horserpower momentum. my ten horse claim was an estimation as i said i was going to dyno it but it was too much for me to do so. you haven't ridden my bike, i have. i have years of experience on mx'ers and sportbikes. my seat of the pants is pretty accurate. plus, i weigh in at 150 lbs so i'm utilizing every bit of power i gained. maybe you just don't know how much a good exhaust system affects this bike, especially if you're still riding yours around stock.

 

first off, i never was trying to be humble. call it muzzy bashing or whatever you want, but it is the facts. i'm just reiterating posts left from muzzy owners left on this forum. i never claimed the muzzy was designed for the 300, but we're not riding 300's here. that's the sad thing, muzzy doesn't even build a pipe for this new bike yet, but biggun already has a pipe engineered to fit perfectly. i'm NOT looking for a listing for a 250 for a muzzy pipe as you so wish i was. i could care about muzzy anything. they're an old company whose quailty control evidently has went out the window with it's customer service, again according to muzzy owners here. how many bikes really use muzzy pipes in racing, not many anymore. i don't even think kawi's superbike teams use muzzy pipes. you even say YOUR muzzy hits the footpeg, so what are you so upset about when i tell a potential buyer this problem? reality bites eh? clamps are for cheap systems? is that why yoshimura use them on their atv systems, biggun also with all their championship wins? sorry, but spring clamps break all the time as do springs themselves. you can use screwdrivers and pliers to stretch and misshape that spring all day just to fit it on the spring holder, having a clamp, using a ratchet and socket and i'm done in less than one minute. the clamp means an airtight seal evenly distributed whereas a spring only pulls tight where the spring is mounted. so if two springs aren't perfectly rigid to each other you're going to have a seal that is not equally tight around the diameter of the midpipe. you must love bluing and discoloration on your header pipes. no thanks, i like my stuff to look new. i wonder why they make ceramic coated headers for hot rod cars and muscle cars, it's such a waste. it may be a dirt bike but that doesn't mean it shouldn't stay looking like new when it's possible.

 

I guess I'm glad that when I was considering pipes and read all over this forum how the muzzy did not fit this bike and how it blues the header that i did the logical thing and bought the biggun. I like a pipe that fits perfectly and makes some serious power. My animosity is with you talking like I'm making all this stuff up about the muzzy. I'm not- as you say, the proof is here in the posts. All you have to do is read and you'll see the problems people have with their muzzy systems. But pride covers their eyes and they make the best of their pipe. I'm a perfectionist and no thanks to a pipe i have to dent in just so my passenger footpeg can clear so my 7-year old and 4-year old have a place for their feet when I take them for a ride. And I don't know about you but I hate bluing header pipes. If you got ceramic coating on your race car, you'd think that you would know how important it is and get it on your dirt bike especially since the pipe is so exposed. peace out my man.