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dan888 11-19-2010 01:27 AM

First gear gone ?????
 
Anybody lose first gear only?

So about halfway through the first lap of the Zwingle IA hare scramble this weekend ( https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=34222 ), I realize that I can no longer shift the bike down into first gear. It shifts up and down through the other gears fine, just no first gear. The shifter moves smoothly and doesn’t make any funny noises. I’m sure whatever happened was the result of a get off. I dropped the bike quite a few times, but nothing extreme until after the shifter took a crap. Two pretty good hits after shifter quit working but not on the shifter side. ( I am also taking recommendations for aftermarket replacement front fenders and headlight assemblies :D )
I’m sure this shifting problem is going to be at least a taking the side cover off project, unless for some reason I find something obvious on the outside of the bike. I’m just wondering if anybody else has had this specific problem and if so what did you find. I searched but didn’t find much. I’m hoping that I don’t have to dig any deeper than just the side cover.
I need to quit breaking things.
Dan

punkenduro09 11-19-2010 02:39 AM

90% chance its the shift star. remove your shifter, then the cover to check.

Blackheart58 11-19-2010 02:43 AM

I have bent shifters so badly, that they hit something physical, on the outside of the bike, preventing the range of motion that is needed to get first gear to engage. Check to make sure it's not a physical, outer obstruction before digging into the case. BTW, I've not done this on the KLX. Yet. :eek:

neilaction 11-19-2010 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Blackheart58 (Post 433786)
I have bent shifters so badly, that they hit something physical, on the outside of the bike, preventing the range of motion that is needed to get first gear to engage. Check to make sure it's not a physical, outer obstruction before digging into the case. BTW, I've not done this on the KLX. Yet. :eek:

That was my first thought.
But thinking about it, that would probably affect all down shifts.

Not sure about this one Dan. Bent selector shaft maybe. :confused:

Blackheart58 11-19-2010 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by neilaction (Post 433799)
That was my first thought.
But thinking about it, that would probably affect all down shifts.


Oh, if it's bent enough, and hitting something, it will affect all downshifts. But, twice now, on a KLR, I've had it bent just enough that the only downshift that wouldn't complete was going into first. I'm assuming it could happen the same way on the KLX. Well, I'm HOPING for his sake, that this could be what happened.

Brewster 11-19-2010 03:08 PM

The distance on the shift star is larger between 1st and 2nd compared to the rest of the shifts........it has to pass through neutral. Check the shift lever first and then the alignment pins on the back of the shift star.

Ride on
Brewster

dan888 11-20-2010 12:23 AM

Thanks you guys. The shift lever has no obstruction on the exterior of the bike. I have been there done that :D, I checked for any obstruction out on the course. I washed the bike off and got it down into the basement today, so maybe this weekend I will get the first cover off. I'm hopeful that I find the problem there and the damage is not any farther in.

Dan

dan888 11-20-2010 09:37 PM

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Good news. It's the pin that limits the shift fork travel up and down. Shift lever must have been forced up and slammed into this pin, bending it upwards some. Once bent the pin didn't allow the shift fork to travel downwards enough to get far enough across the flat spot where neutral is located on the shift star.
$6 part at bike bandit $7 shipping :)

Dirt really packs inbetween the rubber and sprocket. I cut the rubber off after taking this pic.
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clean the area up before opening the engine up.
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at first glance everything looks ok
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Bent pin is in the center of the shot.
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not allowing shift fork to travel down enough.
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bent pin, engine casing looks ok, glad that wasn't cracked.
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Karitane Pete 11-20-2010 09:42 PM

Nice Picture, thanks

neilaction 11-20-2010 09:51 PM

Very clear Dan, and one to remember.
Thanks. :)


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