Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
#1
Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
I was telling my friend who used to race motocross about the crankcase mod, and he said that thats one mod that I sould leave well enough alone. He told me for the performance gain, I really wasn't going to tell a huge performance gain like if I just went ahear and rejetted it, change exhaust (or drill the baffle plate for me, I'm cheap) and drop the gearing. He was really skeptical about drilling the crank case air hole, and then I won't have to worry about getting oil in the air box. Whats your thoughts and opinions on this? Is it really worth the performance, what is the likley hood that if I drop my bike I will really mess it up by performing this mod. Thanks again for all your help guys!!
#2
RE: Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
I saw a noticeable diffrence when I did ONLY the crankcase mod first. I later drilled out the stock exhaust, added the KX snorkel and rejetted. Finally I added the Muzzy exhaust and rejetted again. Each time there was a noticeable improvement in performance. THe Muzzy definitely made the biggest improvement.
As for oil leaking into the airbox. Couple things, 1) The bike would have to be on it's side and paritally upside down. IF oil did leak into hte airbox, there is a still a small restriction because you are only drilling to 3/8" not the full 1/2" of the opening. Finally, the airbox has a drain inside it. Most of the oil would flow out. If it did get into the engine, worst case you would foul the plug and might need to clean out the carbs. A small amount of oil would just burn up right with the fuel and cause no harm.
As for oil leaking into the airbox. Couple things, 1) The bike would have to be on it's side and paritally upside down. IF oil did leak into hte airbox, there is a still a small restriction because you are only drilling to 3/8" not the full 1/2" of the opening. Finally, the airbox has a drain inside it. Most of the oil would flow out. If it did get into the engine, worst case you would foul the plug and might need to clean out the carbs. A small amount of oil would just burn up right with the fuel and cause no harm.
#4
RE: Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
This is one mod that i have done to my bike,The first thing i noticed is that the slight knock that is produced around the 4 to 5000 rpm is gone and you do notice a increase in throttle response. Think of it like this you put on new exh. to allow the exh gasses to flow better you install new jets, air filter and snorkel to get the air and fuel in faster or greater amount so now you need to let the other byproduct out (back pressure[:'(]). There is no way around it all combustion motors will produce a back pressure in the crankcase and this back pressure will slow down how the engine revs and produces power. I hope that this helps you out.
#5
RE: Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
So is it a good or bad thing to drill out the vent hole??!! What if you keep the stock exhaust??
From previous posts:
I just spent some time comparing parts drawings of the '06 KLX250S cylinder head and airbox with those of the '06 KLX300R. Our bikes have an air injection system that's not present on the KLX300 or the older KLX250s. This includes a valve that draws air from the airbox into the exhaust valve area during the exhaust stroke to increase exhaust gas temperature. It's the first thing you rip off a modern Bonneville because it makes the pipes turn blue.
The purpose of the air injection system is only to help pass the EPA. There is also a catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe!
Removing the air injection system won't make a darn bit of difference in how the bike runs but it will lower the temperature of your exhaust pipe a bit if you care about that. Mine's already blued significantly.
Todd, are you sure there is not a CAT? The owners manual says it has one. If so, would the cooler exhaust tend to adversely effect the system.
Yes, you're correct. There is a CAT and lower temps would be bad for that. I'd not mess with the air injection unless you change exhaust systems.
I only bring this up so folks will understand why their pipe is bluing so fast underneath the heat shield and for future reference in case you decide to swap out the head and cylinder for those from a 300.
From previous posts:
I just spent some time comparing parts drawings of the '06 KLX250S cylinder head and airbox with those of the '06 KLX300R. Our bikes have an air injection system that's not present on the KLX300 or the older KLX250s. This includes a valve that draws air from the airbox into the exhaust valve area during the exhaust stroke to increase exhaust gas temperature. It's the first thing you rip off a modern Bonneville because it makes the pipes turn blue.
The purpose of the air injection system is only to help pass the EPA. There is also a catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe!
Removing the air injection system won't make a darn bit of difference in how the bike runs but it will lower the temperature of your exhaust pipe a bit if you care about that. Mine's already blued significantly.
Todd, are you sure there is not a CAT? The owners manual says it has one. If so, would the cooler exhaust tend to adversely effect the system.
Yes, you're correct. There is a CAT and lower temps would be bad for that. I'd not mess with the air injection unless you change exhaust systems.
I only bring this up so folks will understand why their pipe is bluing so fast underneath the heat shield and for future reference in case you decide to swap out the head and cylinder for those from a 300.
#6
RE: Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
Drill away this will not effect the way the air injection system works at all. The injection system is there to help super heat the cat. so it can burn off any left over fuel that was not burnt during combustion.
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RE: Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
ORIGINAL: mrphone
So is it a good or bad thing to drill out the vent hole??!! What if you keep the stock exhaust??
From previous posts:
I just spent some time comparing parts drawings of the '06 KLX250S cylinder head and airbox with those of the '06 KLX300R. Our bikes have an air injection system that's not present on the KLX300 or the older KLX250s. This includes a valve that draws air from the airbox into the exhaust valve area during the exhaust stroke to increase exhaust gas temperature. It's the first thing you rip off a modern Bonneville because it makes the pipes turn blue.
The purpose of the air injection system is only to help pass the EPA. There is also a catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe!
Removing the air injection system won't make a darn bit of difference in how the bike runs but it will lower the temperature of your exhaust pipe a bit if you care about that. Mine's already blued significantly.
Todd, are you sure there is not a CAT? The owners manual says it has one. If so, would the cooler exhaust tend to adversely effect the system.
Yes, you're correct. There is a CAT and lower temps would be bad for that. I'd not mess with the air injection unless you change exhaust systems.
I only bring this up so folks will understand why their pipe is bluing so fast underneath the heat shield and for future reference in case you decide to swap out the head and cylinder for those from a 300.
So is it a good or bad thing to drill out the vent hole??!! What if you keep the stock exhaust??
From previous posts:
I just spent some time comparing parts drawings of the '06 KLX250S cylinder head and airbox with those of the '06 KLX300R. Our bikes have an air injection system that's not present on the KLX300 or the older KLX250s. This includes a valve that draws air from the airbox into the exhaust valve area during the exhaust stroke to increase exhaust gas temperature. It's the first thing you rip off a modern Bonneville because it makes the pipes turn blue.
The purpose of the air injection system is only to help pass the EPA. There is also a catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe!
Removing the air injection system won't make a darn bit of difference in how the bike runs but it will lower the temperature of your exhaust pipe a bit if you care about that. Mine's already blued significantly.
Todd, are you sure there is not a CAT? The owners manual says it has one. If so, would the cooler exhaust tend to adversely effect the system.
Yes, you're correct. There is a CAT and lower temps would be bad for that. I'd not mess with the air injection unless you change exhaust systems.
I only bring this up so folks will understand why their pipe is bluing so fast underneath the heat shield and for future reference in case you decide to swap out the head and cylinder for those from a 300.
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RE: Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
ORIGINAL: motoguy128
As for oil leaking into the airbox. Couple things, 1) The bike would have to be on it's side and paritally upside down.
As for oil leaking into the airbox. Couple things, 1) The bike would have to be on it's side and paritally upside down.
#9
RE: Drilling Crank Case Vent Hole??
ORIGINAL: scat
Think of it like this you put on new exh. to allow the exh gasses to flow better you install new jets, air filter and snorkel to get the air and fuel in faster or greater amount so now you need to let the other byproduct out (back pressure[:'(]). There is no way around it all combustion motors will produce a back pressure in the crankcase and this back pressure will slow down how the engine revs and produces power. I hope that this helps you out.
Think of it like this you put on new exh. to allow the exh gasses to flow better you install new jets, air filter and snorkel to get the air and fuel in faster or greater amount so now you need to let the other byproduct out (back pressure[:'(]). There is no way around it all combustion motors will produce a back pressure in the crankcase and this back pressure will slow down how the engine revs and produces power. I hope that this helps you out.