Don't like your KLX without a snorkle or lid?

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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by klx678
True, but if enough water gets on the filter, it could run through the filter taking some grit along with it and get sucked in the carb. Maybe not likely, but could happen. Just sayin' there was a reason too for the snorkels to run behind.
I hear ya, but the filter is there for a reason too, it filters out "grit"
 
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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I finally got to take it out and test. There is a noticeable difference from the last 1/3 throttle to WOT from my previous kdx200 snorkle only, its not in my head either, its in the seat of my pants. I honestly thought several times i was in 6th because i know the way the bikes acts and sounds and still had another gear left. Now i think its begging for a bigger jet, at least i am lol.
 
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mtnman
I hear ya, but the filter is there for a reason too, it filters out "grit"
Grit yes...direct shot of water not so much.
 
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 2veedubs
Grit yes...direct shot of water not so much.
time for me to move on from this thread, its just going in circles....
None of this matter, i will never turn my klx into a submarine, so its all moot.
 
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 04:41 AM
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Good call.
 
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnman
I honestly thought several times i was in 6th because i know the way the bikes acts and sounds and still had another gear left.
Without something like roll on numbers or a quantifiable test you can't know if it's in your head. Your took the time to remove the lid believing it would make a difference. The bike sounds different, reinforcing your preconceived bias. Without some sort of test there's no way to know if it's different.

My base assumption is that unless the KDX snorkel has less overall surface area than the mouth of the carb, removing the airbox lid will not help and likely hurt performance as it will destroy resonance. In effect the rigid sides of hte airbox act as a spring forcing more air into the carb.

Your expectation of more power and the reinforcing sound pretty much destroy this as any kind of a test.
 
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by taxonomy
Without something like roll on numbers or a quantifiable test you can't know if it's in your head. Your took the time to remove the lid believing it would make a difference. The bike sounds different, reinforcing your preconceived bias. Without some sort of test there's no way to know if it's different.

My base assumption is that unless the KDX snorkel has less overall surface area than the mouth of the carb, removing the airbox lid will not help and likely hurt performance as it will destroy resonance. In effect the rigid sides of hte airbox act as a spring forcing more air into the carb.

Your expectation of more power and the reinforcing sound pretty much destroy this as any kind of a test.
Well i thought i was done,lol. In answer to your post BULLSHIST. Maybe you can't tell a difference but i can. SO your telling me when i took my klx from stock form, to a DG,K@N,13 tooth, jet kit,dual snorkels. It was all in my head? The Bike is no faster, just makes more noise? Dude your sadly mistaken and don't know what the heck you are talking about.Maybe the guys doing a 351 conversion the power gain is all in their heads too without numbers? LAFF
 
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnman
SO your telling me when i took my klx from stock form, to a DG,K@N,13 tooth, jet kit,dual snorkels. It was all in my head? The Bike is no faster, just makes more noise? LAFF
This is precisely what I am saying. You have devised a poor test for your hypothesis.

I have a 351 conversion. I have one, paid the money for it, and went to the trouble to install it because there is considerable evidence that it works in the form if dynotests.

Thanks for the all caps in your response. It added well to your argument and went considerable distance in swaying me to your point. Nonetheless, I remain unconvinced and consider your proofs anecdotal in nature. You may also want to consider the affect of confirmation bias in your thinking. Confirmation bias is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs
 

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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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My dual snorkel setup.

 
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by taxonomy
This is precisely what I am saying. You have devised a poor test for your hypothesis.

I have a 351 conversion. I have one, paid the money for it, and went to the trouble to install it because there is considerable evidence that it works in the form if dynotests.

Thanks for the all caps in your response. It added well to your argument and went considerable distance in swaying me to your point. Nonetheless, I remain unconvinced and consider your proofs anecdotal in nature. You may also want to consider the affect of confirmation bias in your thinking. Confirmation bias is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs
I could really give a rip what you think, go lerk on someone else's thread. And your welcome. Your conclusion make's no sense, Get in your Honda and then get in my 70 Cuda, you WILL be able to tell a difference in horsepower, which is my point entirely. If you couldn't tell the difference between before and after your 351 and needed a dyno to tell you its producing more horsepower you truly are clueless.
 



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