12 T front sprocket
i was thinkin i could go with a 12 tooth sprocket off a klx 300 instead of gettin a 48 tooth rear and it would be the same thing but with less cost. i was also wondering if i would need a different chain. i dont think i do but just askin. would this be an ok setup compared to goin with the 48 rear sprocket
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Don't do it, we are already pushing the wear and noise factor, even though some don't believe it, that's gonna be real hard on chain wear. Do the larger back sprocket.:eek:
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http://www.rockymountainmc.com/produ...dFamilyId=9547
i dunno if this link will work, i've never done this but will these hand guards fit our bike? is our bar a 7/8" |
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ORIGINAL: kawiridr04 i was thinkin i could go with a 12 tooth sprocket off a klx 300 instead of gettin a 48 tooth rear and it would be the same thing but with less cost. i was also wondering if i would need a different chain. i dont think i do but just askin. would this be an ok setup compared to goin with the 48 rear sprocket |
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so the klx 300 front sprocket is the one to buy to fit. also how much of a difference could you tell when you went to the 13T iowaguy?
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okay, i've decided to try this. { all these choices are driving me crazy![:@]} i am gettin a kenda rear tire 110/100/18, a uni air filter, a 12 tooth front sprocket, and some tusk handguards all for $110. now i just need some help from you guys and let me know if the air filter, handuards, and sprocket will fit if they are all for a klx 300. the handguards fit a 7/8" bar. and i ordered the filter and sprocket for the klx 300. from rocky mountain m/c. now if all this fits then everything will be good. please reply.
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Handguards are pretty much universal... Normal bars are all 7/8".
Most brands usually need a little convincing when installing them (i.e. possible bending)... I think the 12 tooth front sprocket is a bad idea, and probably won't fit without some sort of spacer... If you do make it fit with a spacer, it's going to be noisy and wear the chain out quickly. You'll also probably have to shorten the chain, but not sure about that. (You can grind off two links with a hand grinder, a bench vise, and a steady hand). |
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You also need to order the filter oil....they come dry ;)
http://www.rockymountainmc.com/produ...dFamilyId=6789 |
RE: 12 T front sprocket
ORIGINAL: Iowaguy ORIGINAL: kawiridr04 i was thinkin i could go with a 12 tooth sprocket off a klx 300 instead of gettin a 48 tooth rear and it would be the same thing but with less cost. i was also wondering if i would need a different chain. i dont think i do but just askin. would this be an ok setup compared to goin with the 48 rear sprocket |
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The 13 tooth did make a difference, seemed to drop all the gears down by half a gear (if that makes sense):D Then bumping the back up from the 42 to the 45 finished the change another half in the range, I love the setup now. I have thought of getting a 48 sprocket for the back and installing the OEM 14 tooth back on the front just because it has the dampener and the built in shoulder. I had to get a spacer made for mine, and I still don't like the fact that there are two parts in there when there could be one solid piece.
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A 12 tooth will turn the chain pretty tight. Also it will make the chain run tighter on the deflectors that protect the swing arm. With extra wear and tear on all the parts in the long run i'll bet it's cheaper to go with the larger rear sprocket.
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I just received a 48 tooth rear sprocket and 110 link chain from Rocky Mountain ATV. I went with Primary Drive brand components because they were out of Renthal 48t sprockets and o-ring 110 link chains. Also wasn't sure if I would like the gearing so the cheaper components made sense. Together they were a $75 shipped. Probably won't have time to get them installed until this weekend, but hopefully will work out ok.
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ORIGINAL: kawiridr04 so the klx 300 front sprocket is the one to buy to fit. also how much of a difference could you tell when you went to the 13T iowaguy? |
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ORIGINAL: deej ORIGINAL: Iowaguy ORIGINAL: kawiridr04 i was thinkin i could go with a 12 tooth sprocket off a klx 300 instead of gettin a 48 tooth rear and it would be the same thing but with less cost. i was also wondering if i would need a different chain. i dont think i do but just askin. would this be an ok setup compared to goin with the 48 rear sprocket good to hear from you. you know how i am, i talk out of my ass a lot and offer up my dissents and opinions. i mean well all the time though and actually post pretty experienced advice but it's not the gospel like i think.;) i, like you, think the 13 tooth sprocket was the most noticeable mod performance-wise next to the pipe that i ever bolted onto my 250. it's a gem of a mod that people probably don't respect enough to actually swap out. it totally changes the way the bike makes power imo. you? later buddy. |
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I like these
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Iowaguy Is right the KLX 300 front sprocket wont fit!! This is what I put on.
AFAM sprocket Part # 24502 13tooth 520 pitch Phone # 1-800-290-9040 It says it is for a EX/KLR 250-650cc 1987-96 But it is a direct bolt on..I did not need a spacer! I didn't notice any more noise than the stock one. If you have your hart set on a 12 tooth than maybe you can use this info to get a 12t instead of 13t. Good luck and lets us know how you make out...:D:D |
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Hey Iowa, yea I really think the 13 tooth is the best mod for instant and inexpensive power. Hey speaking of the 13 tooth, do you have a brand, model # for a 13 tooth with the shoulder built in that fits our bike, I really want to get that spacer out of there. Its probably pretty rusty buy now, since it was machined.
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so if the klx 300 front sprocket doesn't fit what about the rear if i wanted the 48 tooth
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I think S Dunne ran a 12 tooth when racing, look at the early 2006 posts under his name .
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ORIGINAL: deej Hey Iowa, yea I really think the 13 tooth is the best mod for instant and inexpensive power. Hey speaking of the 13 tooth, do you have a brand, model # for a 13 tooth with the shoulder built in that fits our bike, I really want to get that spacer out of there. Its probably pretty rusty buy now, since it was machined. https://www.kawasakiforums.com/m_32788/tm.htm ORIGINAL: YYY.Guy Anyway, here's the list of sprockets and part numbers that I've compiled: JT Sprockets: JTF516-13 Sprocket Specialists: 514XK-13 Sunstar: 34113 Kimpex: 101006 The Kimpex has the shoulder built in, so no spacer is needed. Didn't notice any increase in chain noise, either. The only thing that would have made the whole experience better was if it was easier to loosen the dam nut to get the sprocket off!!! (Yes, I did unbend the retaining washer beforehand ... it was still a bitch to get off!) Hope this helps! Mike |
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Hey who you calling noob? I was the first one to post in this section, in fact I asked Patrick for the section way back when. Now I may be lazy, but I am no noob.:D:D:D Besides that section needs updated as people on here find other stuff.[8D]
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Oh and I invented the Internet[8D]
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ORIGINAL: deej Hey who you calling noob? I was the first one to post in this section, in fact I asked Patrick for the section way back when. Now I may be lazy, but I am no noob.:D:D:D Besides that section needs updated as people on here find other stuff.[8D] |
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FWIW, I'm running the Daystar. Installed and works fine. No spacer needed.
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ORIGINAL: JB1 ORIGINAL: deej Hey who you calling noob? I was the first one to post in this section, in fact I asked Patrick for the section way back when. Now I may be lazy, but I am no noob.:D:D:D Besides that section needs updated as people on here find other stuff.[8D] |
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Am I the only one who likes the stock 14:42 gearing? I honestly don't think I'd mind going 15:42 or maybe 14:39. The main thing I don't like about going up in the back or down in the front is that it makes the cruising RPMs higher and after a while that tends to wear me out a lot faster on the road. And I never had any problems with first gear being too fast off-road. I guess I'm just different. I reckon I've always been on the fringes of the bell curve, so this should be no different. :D
While the gearing ratios have no correspondance with the KLX, I got my 49 tooth rear for the KTM and that lets me use the stock chain with the 14 tooth front. My first gearing try was 13:52 and that was a little buzzy at highway speeds. Not bad, probably about like the KLX in 6th gear using stock 14:42. But I tested out 14:49 this evening and I think this gearing is superb. On the high end it would be equivalent to a 7th gear in the KLX, cruising at 60 MPH at around 5000 RPM, just rumbling along is great, I could do that all day and not get tired. Makes first a little high, but with the larger low-end torque, it still lugs along just fine in first so I don't think I'll have any problems going slow when I need to. I tested it a little off-road and it was fine. |
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I'm with you Brian. I wouldn't gear down for anything... Power up! Don't gear down!:D
Yeah, I still haven't got my big bore kit on yet... :( Real soon though. |
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well, his ktm and our tiny klx's are two very different machines. if you would ride my 13/45 setup you'd switch immediately. It's got tons of low end grunt for a little 250. I think I'm gonna go to 331cc and I can just imagine the low end increase. It's going to be sweet. The klx, imo, needs to be geared down when stock since it has no power and going at least down one up front increases the torque spread to make it hit a lot earlier.
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here's the 13-tooth i have. i just checked and it has no wear whatsoever on it. i just got a new renthal 45 installed in the rear and sent my old one to marc in NY. man i love my chain and sprockets.:)
http://denniskirk.com/jsp/product_ca...p;mmyId=500205 |
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I don't remember the brand name of mine, I just ordered a 13 tooth for the Honda 650L and it had the shoulder on it and fit perfect, no increased chain noise or wear.
If they had a 12 tooth I'd buy one just to try it out, even if you don't like it it's not a lot of money compared to a rear sprocket and new chain. |
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ORIGINAL: markturbo ... even if you don't like it it's not a lot of money compared to a rear sprocket and new chain. |
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ORIGINAL: Nobrakes Am I the only one who likes the stock 14:42 gearing? I honestly don't think I'd mind going 15:42 or maybe 14:39. The main thing I don't like about going up in the back or down in the front is that it makes the cruising RPMs higher and after a while that tends to wear me out a lot faster on the road. And I never had any problems with first gear being too fast off-road. I guess I'm just different. I reckon I've always been on the fringes of the bell curve, so this should be no different. :D While the gearing ratios have no correspondance with the KLX, I got my 49 tooth rear for the KTM and that lets me use the stock chain with the 14 tooth front. My first gearing try was 13:52 and that was a little buzzy at highway speeds. Not bad, probably about like the KLX in 6th gear using stock 14:42. But I tested out 14:49 this evening and I think this gearing is superb. On the high end it would be equivalent to a 7th gear in the KLX, cruising at 60 MPH at around 5000 RPM, just rumbling along is great, I could do that all day and not get tired. Makes first a little high, but with the larger low-end torque, it still lugs along just fine in first so I don't think I'll have any problems going slow when I need to. I tested it a little off-road and it was fine. Well actually it really comes down to rider preference. Take me for example, the longest I have to ride at highway or close to highway speeds is a couple of miles. What I really geared down for is so that no matter what trail or steep gravel hill I am riding on I know in my mind and through experience is that if and when I need the bike to haul me out of a low or steep spot its going to grunt and pull with out having to slip the clutch too much. I can't imaging going back to stock, let alone the other way that would yea let you do 80 down the highway, but you would be slipping the clutch all the time just to get it to hook up off road when you really needed it. So if you ride almost all highway and don't really care about low end power then keep the stock 14-42 or go to a 15-42, or a 14-40, I mean we can talk about what gears are the best, and I have done it on more than one occasion, but really it all boils down to a couple of things. How much do you weigh, and where do you want to go? |
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