Gearing ?
Hey, just joined the forum but I have been enjoying my 2009 klx 250s since September 2008. I have slowly been doing all the necessary mods. over The past 2 years and now I am playing with the idea of going to a 13 tooth front sprocket. I am currently running a 14 front (stock) and a 45 back which was the first mod that I did early in the spring of 2009. It helped the low end and I only gained about 500 rpms at 90 km/hr. 90 is about as fast as I need this bike to go on the black top because most of my riding is trail riding (four wheeler/snowmoblie trail and dirt roads. Any comments on dropping 1 tooth up front, will it rev through the roof on the pavement?
P.S. Mods that I have already completed:
- FMF Q4 slip-on
- Removed air box lid
- installed a UNI filter
- took the bike to local engine guy and got it rejetted on the Dyno
- moved up 3 teeth on the rear sprocket
- Moose skid plate
- Acerbis hand guards
- Mt 21 front and rear tires
- 1.5 inch bar rise kit
- cut off rear fender extension (to tidy up the rear end)
I have one more question, after all the mods ,this bike topped out on the dyno at @ 23.85 horsepower. Is this about what everybody else is getting or am I way of the mark?
Thanks
P.S. Mods that I have already completed:
- FMF Q4 slip-on
- Removed air box lid
- installed a UNI filter
- took the bike to local engine guy and got it rejetted on the Dyno
- moved up 3 teeth on the rear sprocket
- Moose skid plate
- Acerbis hand guards
- Mt 21 front and rear tires
- 1.5 inch bar rise kit
- cut off rear fender extension (to tidy up the rear end)
I have one more question, after all the mods ,this bike topped out on the dyno at @ 23.85 horsepower. Is this about what everybody else is getting or am I way of the mark?
Thanks
welcome MTB. I am also looking into changing my C/S sprocket this winter, and experiment a bit with regearing.
I think Deej has the 13/45 gearing so I'm sure he could tell you what his RPMs are at various speeds. Just remember, changing one tooth on the front is the same as doing 3 in the rear (42/14) stock ratio, so with that quick thought I would think your RPMs would double from the original rear sprocket swap to an additional 500 RPMs at 90 km/hr.
I haven't taken mine to the dyno but I have similar mods to what you've listed so I would expect mine to be similar.
My Gravely riding lawnmower has a kawasaki 25HP engine in it, and my bike feels slightly more powerful than that
I think Deej has the 13/45 gearing so I'm sure he could tell you what his RPMs are at various speeds. Just remember, changing one tooth on the front is the same as doing 3 in the rear (42/14) stock ratio, so with that quick thought I would think your RPMs would double from the original rear sprocket swap to an additional 500 RPMs at 90 km/hr.
I haven't taken mine to the dyno but I have similar mods to what you've listed so I would expect mine to be similar.
My Gravely riding lawnmower has a kawasaki 25HP engine in it, and my bike feels slightly more powerful than that
By dropping 1 tooth on the front you'll experience the same change again. 1 frt = 3 back. It will be revving pretty high on the highway. You'll have increased the revs 14% total (7% each time)
ps: psudude posted quicker
ps: psudude posted quicker
I'm running 14/49, which is very close to 13/45 (just slightly shorter). The bike definitely is revving high at about 55-60mph, i wouldn't want to hold it sustained at that speed for more than a few minutes. Otherwise it feels great, you will spend very little time in first gear under normal riding conditions, and can just reserve it for a sort of 'low range'. The bike pulls better also. If trails are your focus, I'd go for it.
Check out the gearing commander website. It's fun to play with and will help answer your questions. http://www.gearingcommander.com/
I'm running 14/49 right now. I don't mind riding 60 to 65 with it for a while, but 75 is too much for my comfort. Also have a 13 and 15 front sprocket. I haven't tried them on yet as she's in major winter teardown and maintenance mode right now, but expect to use the 13 here and there when I do the slow and technical trails, and the 15 for running around the desert.
Someone commented that I may have a tough time removing the chain, and thus tire, with a 14/49 without first removing (or at least swinging) the chain guide. It's a little tight, but is definitely doable. The 13 will be easier. The 15 may require swinging the chain guide. Kind of like changing the belt on a VW...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA
I'm running 14/49 right now. I don't mind riding 60 to 65 with it for a while, but 75 is too much for my comfort. Also have a 13 and 15 front sprocket. I haven't tried them on yet as she's in major winter teardown and maintenance mode right now, but expect to use the 13 here and there when I do the slow and technical trails, and the 15 for running around the desert.
Someone commented that I may have a tough time removing the chain, and thus tire, with a 14/49 without first removing (or at least swinging) the chain guide. It's a little tight, but is definitely doable. The 13 will be easier. The 15 may require swinging the chain guide. Kind of like changing the belt on a VW...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA
Last edited by IDRIDR; Dec 7, 2010 at 08:03 PM.
Pretty cool belt change. I had a '64 Beetle. If it only could talk...,
The only thing you can do is try the gearing and see what works best for you.
I think the 23 hp is a lot, what jets did you end up with?
David
The only thing you can do is try the gearing and see what works best for you.
I think the 23 hp is a lot, what jets did you end up with?
David
I got out my Dyno analyzer and I was wrong at 23.85 horspower, it was actual 22.55, stock 16.64. It looks like it maxed out somewhere between @ 8000 and 8500 rpms, after that it pretty much flat lined. Here are the technician's notes, they mean nothing to me, air box lid removed, main jet #142m needle +.030, pilot jet was fine with stock, mixture screw backed out 2 turns. This really woke the bike up. "Unplugged" as they say. I did not have any of this smog stuff removed, I quest the technician did not see the need.
In this case I do not think that a horsepower rating gives the whole picture. I think that torque tells the story. When people ask me about the mods and what I think, I say the bike seems to have a lot more torque. Thats just me.
In this case I do not think that a horsepower rating gives the whole picture. I think that torque tells the story. When people ask me about the mods and what I think, I say the bike seems to have a lot more torque. Thats just me.



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