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crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
my friend just got a crf 230 with pipe and couple other mods and i've not had the chance to ride with him. what bike do u think is faster my klx 250 with hmf pipe or his modded 230?
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Off the line I'd say you're toast, but a few hundred yards later your taller gearing will beat his offroad gearing. I'd say most sub 400cc pure dirt machines top out under 70 mph, 4 strokes that is, 2 strokers are a whole different story.
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
I'd guess that you could edge him on top speed, but he will blow you away in any acceleration contest.
You're comparing apples to oranges here. He's got a race bike, you don't. |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
A lot depends on the rider. Remember the guy who raced his boss who rode the WR450 or something like that, and I think he was on a KLX? But Dean's right, the KLX won't have much for the CRF, assuming he can ride at least as good as you.
Of course, anything could happen ... his spark plug wire could somehow work its way loose, maybe some water "condensed" in his gas tank, his CRF could develop a leaky head pipe when he wasn't looking ... you just never know about these things. :eek: ;) |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
ORIGINAL: kawiridr04 my friend just got a crf 230 with pipe and couple other mods and i've not had the chance to ride with him. what bike do u think is faster my klx 250 with hmf pipe or his modded 230? Just don't place to much $$ on the race. |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
The CRF230 is almost in the farm bike category designed for recreational riders, I think the KLX250 would toast it. Have you guys actually had a look at one.
http://powersports.honda.com/assets/...ll/CRF230F.jpg |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Yea, the 230X is an air cooled motor, I don't think its got the inverted forks or really a lot of money put into it. I think it falls under cheap trail/offroad bike. I'd say it would be closer than one might think...
He might have the holeshot, but the KLX might have enough grunt to pull the tall gears and come out on top, I really think so if the KLX has a pipe. |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
If the KLX can't smoke a CRF230 it's got to be slow. The CRF230 is a $3000 trail bike that weighs a metric ton. It's big heavy and slow.
http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/en...7776&go=Go |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Actuallythereported weight of the CRF 230 is 238 lb, and the KLX 250 is 262 lb. If you want to race Anybody ... spend money on mods, or replace.
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
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My last bike was a crf 230, i had a pro circuit pipe ,hi flow air filter , rejetted carb and re ground cam,
the cam made the biggest improvement, but if you have a 13 tooth sprocket a think you can take him. Its a fun little bike, but its lack of real suspension is its down fall , the 230 was stolen out of my truck ,that's how i ended up with my klx.Attachment 32604 |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
My money is on the KLX250.
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
OK, my knowledge of the CRF230 is lacking. I was rolling it together with the CRF250 which is a totally different animal.
After digging around on the net, I found this dyno chart. The blue line is the stock CRF230 curve; the red line is after installation of a 250cc large bore kit. Looks like it produces about 17hp in stock form which is pretty much the same as the KLX250. He's got an aftermarket pipe, so do you. He weighs less (238 vs 262lbs), so I think he will still out-accelerate you.I think you will still take him on top end though because I thinkhis bike is built for low-end grunt in stock form, where ours has a better mid-to-upper range hit. So whatchu waitin for, Willis? Get out there and challenge him to a race! And to those who say the KLX250 is slow if it can't beat the CRF, don't be surprised. The KLX isn't exactly a powerhouse. http://www.xr100.com/dyno%20charts/c...que-and-HP.gif |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
My friend has a 2003 or 2004 CRF230, pure stock. Stock to stock my KLX out accelerates his 230 on the street, in the mud and in the hard pack. The KLX has more ground clearance and overall better suspension. We switched bikes, sure enough, the CRF feels like my lawn tractor, very industrial feeling. It is a nice bike, but the KLX is much better.
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
I have a 06' KLX 250 that is dead stock save for a 13t counter sproket, and a buddy with a dead stock CRF 230 (at the time). There is a dirt drag strip at Durhamtown plantation where we ride, and we have drag raced from a dead stop a few times to about 50-60mph. The bikes are nearly equal, but I would pull him at the top end of the strip (3rd gear or so) and won each race by less than a bike lenght.
He just added the power-up jet kit and removed a baffle in his exhaust and I have the HMF pipe and dyno-jet kit being installed in the next week or so. I will let you guys know how the drag race goes once both bikes are opened up a bit. Geoff |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Hey welcome racer!
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
A year ago last December when I got my KLX my son had a CRF 230 and naturally we had to see who was king! My KLX was stock at the time and his had a FMF pipe on it. I outweigh my son by about 80 pounds. Off the line we were dead even and after third gear I could pull away from him. After a few mods on the KLX there was no comparison. The KLX is much more bike!
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Thanks EMS. Been lurking a while, but I haven't had much to say here. I am just getting back into bikes after a 10 year diversion withtracking sportscars (roadcourse stuff).
After about 2 months riding dead stock, I am ready to wake up the KLX! My buddies have an xt225 and the CRF 230 and we are all pretty even on skill level. I was expecting the KLX to have the edge on woods riding and single track, but that hasn't been the case so far. Hopefully the HMF/Jetting plus some trackmaster II's will help but in the end I am more focused on honing my skills rather than worrying about modifying the crap out of it. |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
i think the best race for the rider on the klx is a second gear rollng start because the bike seems to get going alot.........alot quicker epecially around 5,000 rpm where the 230 is built for low end torque and the 250 will win the race on top speed so its that much closer to top speed at a second gear rolling start. the only problem is keeping the bikes even and knowing where to take off at if they're rolling. i'll race him from a stop to make it easier but i gotta wait on him to get back from michigan and for my pipe to get here. hopefuly next week.
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
well he gets back today so maybe i'll race him!:D
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Guys,
The CRF 230 is an ole XR 200 motor from the mid 80's bored 30cc[&o]. Its a farm implement for chrisakes. The KLX is a more modern overhead cam, 4 valve, watercooled motor. Sadly however its also slow as molasses and the advantages of the KLX don't come into play until the upper end or the CRF runs hot. The KLX is also stock isn't it? breathing through a straw with lean jetting. The CRF though is better set-up (carb jetting, gearing, etc.)out of the box than the KLX. I'm betting it should be close for these two. |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
ORIGINAL: Team FTB Guys, The CRF 230 is an ole XR 200 motor from the mid 80's bored 30cc[&o]. Its a farm implement for chrisakes. The KLX is a more modern overhead cam, 4 valve, watercooled motor. Sadly however its also slow as molasses and the advantages of the KLX don't come into play until the upper end or the CRF runs hot. The KLX is also stock isn't it? breathing through a straw with lean jetting. The CRF though is better set-up (carb jetting, gearing, etc.)out of the box than the KLX. I'm betting it should be close for these two. well its not exactly breathing through a straw since i've got the airbox lid removed and hmf pipe n jets;) |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Glad I read over this thread. I think that I might end up going with a 400 or 650 if these things are on par with the CRF230.
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
ORIGINAL: racer01 I have a 06' KLX 250 that is dead stock save for a 13t counter sproket, and a buddy with a dead stock CRF 230 (at the time). There is a dirt drag strip at Durhamtown plantation where we ride, and we have drag raced from a dead stop a few times to about 50-60mph. The bikes are nearly equal, but I would pull him at the top end of the strip (3rd gear or so) and won each race by less than a bike lenght. He just added the power-up jet kit and removed a baffle in his exhaust and I have the HMF pipe and dyno-jet kit being installed in the next week or so. I will let you guys know how the drag race goes once both bikes are opened up a bit. Geoff Hey Racer01, we live in the Atlanta area and ride at Highland Park. We want to try out Durhamtown but haven't had the weather or opportunity. We need a weekend to stay and ride. I also am just starting out "again" in the dirt. I have been on the street for the last 20 years. I can't wait to get to D town I here it's great. |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Just went riding for the first time with my 07 KLX 250 with a few buddies one of which had an 06 CRF 230. My other buddies 07 KLX is more broken in than mine and he raced the 230. Basically it was even until about second gear, then the KLX pulled away no problem. Both bikes are dead stock!
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
easily stated- the CRF 230 is an old outdated bike w/new plasticsin an attempt tomake it look good. look at it, it's got rear drum brake and old convo forks. it's ugly and is strictly beginner material. at least w/the KLX, we can build it. I've had my KLX to indicated 90 mph, so bring on about any type of dirt bike for top speed races. the 230 is one of them bikes that is available, but i don't even waste my time looking at it. every manufacturer makes them- the XT line from Yamaha, DR from Suzuki, etc. heck, i'd take a KLX 110 over the 230 anyday, at least it's got a ton of accessories you can build it the way you want. if you can't beat your friend's 230, you can't ride. also, starting off in 1st gear on the KLX is ridiculous, it's a waste of time. 1st is for climbing really. slip it in 2nd, although you won't have to slip it much. shift around 8500 and you'll toast him.
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
Hard to believe Honda would put the "CRF" label on such a pathetic machine...
It's basically an XR. [:-] |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
ORIGINAL: Kawi Wawi Hard to believe Honda would put the "CRF" label on such a pathetic machine... It's basically an XR. [:-] Finally, a bike that the stock KLX will kick butt against :D |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
the 230 is actually a pretty nice bike. i rode it and feerls good. of course top speed was different from our bikes but it is a nice bike for hitting trails
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RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
well its not exactly breathing through a straw since i've got the airbox lid removed and hmf pipe n jets;) |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
well i rode with the 230 today. we were goin down the road { 2nd gear } and he hit the gas then i did right after him and he was a few feet in front til i hit about 3rd gear and i pulled away. thanks to my tall gearing and his low end power but to his defense this is his first day riding but the klx is still alot faster on top end for sure.i like the 230 pretty good. really nice trail bike, i'd personally be happy with one but the klx is the bike for me for sure. once it gets broke in its awesome and i love it. i'm still waitin on my hmf pipe to get here.[:'(]
hopefully this week. but we got some pretty fun trails and some are tough but the klx can handle them { once i get a new tire ha } but now i dont feel bad bout ridin with him because he used to ride a crf 100 with us and i felt kinda bad bout it but now we oughta have fun instead of me havin fun! |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
ORIGINAL: Iowaguy also, starting off in 1st gear on the KLX is ridiculous, it's a waste of time. |
RE: crf 230[ modded] vs. klx 250 [with pipe]
u gotta use first when muddin
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