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dan888 03-18-2013 01:58 AM

Case saver
 
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Sometimes you gotta run with it when the inspiration hits you. I made this up Saturday afternoon after getting the bug. This is my second try at a case saver. I ended up not liking the first one I made a couple years ago.

Running the stock cover in many of the heavy clay mud places I ride. The mud gets jammed in there, and starts coming out the holes in the plastic cover like play-doh.

First version is laying on the left. Cardboard template for the new one. Worn out diamond grinding wheel provides the raw aluminum stock. :D TNC will call me cheap again.

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Bandsaw cut out.
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Beltsander cleans up the saw cut.
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Bandsaw again for the notch. Files to clean up the cut to an even thickness (within .005).
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My handy $400+ "extra crankcase" for easy fit checks.
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A little wet sanding
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A little polish. ( I may take it back to the sanded finish, not sure which I like best. )
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On the bike.
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Dan

dan888 03-18-2013 02:10 AM

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Pictures of my first one. I don't like the pinch point this one creates. You could really get a rock jammed in there.

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The prototype I made has taken a few hits.
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https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...-models-38813/

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TNC 03-18-2013 02:24 AM

Cheap or not, dan, that's some nice work there. It's looks effective, well contoured for the application, and super strong. Good stuff.

Lutz 03-18-2013 02:25 AM

Nice work, Dan.

go cytocis 03-18-2013 02:26 AM

Nice work Dan; you probably saved ~$50 compared to some of the fancy CNC anodized case savers I have seen.
In the few instances I have seen chains come off, damage has ranged from nothing to catastrophic. I know it's pretty unpredictable to know what a broken chain is going to do once it's loose, but the common denominator in the instances I saw with no damage was the presence of a case saver. I wouldn't ride without one.

mikesova 03-18-2013 12:13 PM

What's the white thing you have stuck to the engine case? Looks kind of like the DRZ engine covers.

EMS_0525 03-18-2013 12:32 PM

That there is some nice work. What size front sprocket is that?

drm 03-18-2013 03:29 PM

i like that sketch too!

EMS, it says 14T on his drawing.

dan888 03-19-2013 12:02 AM

Thanks guys. We'll see how it works out. I'm thinking the leading edge of it will take a bit of a beating from the chain and whatever else gets drug in there.
The sprocket on the bike is a 14t.
Mike the thing on the stator cover is a guard I made up.https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...otector-39780/ Probably similar to the drz one you mention. One of my buddies has something like that on his KTM. The used stator cover I got off eBay to replace mine had a good gouge in it, so this will give me a little extra insurance.
Dan

deej 03-19-2013 03:37 PM

How much and when can we expect delivery. :)

deej 03-19-2013 03:39 PM

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Whats the round plate in this picture? Did I miss the writeup on that one? Interesting.

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ol'klx-er 03-19-2013 03:48 PM

Stator cover guard.

You need to stop by more often, Deej.

Come back to KLX land.

rgoers 03-19-2013 05:13 PM

Fine looking workmanship. Wish there was at least *ONE* person who worked on building my new house that had that kind of attention to detail and work ethic...

So, when are you starting production on them?

dan888 03-21-2013 01:32 AM

I want to run it for a bit and see if there are any bugs. I really don't have a great way to mass produce them either. I do have one idea that might work out, but I will have to look into it more. I could make each one by hand but I don't think you guys want to pay $80 a piece for them :D . I'll keep you posted.
Dan

cmott426 03-21-2013 01:48 PM

There are plenty of CNC shops out there that could make up a few dozen for fairly cheap. Most shops like a 3D CAD file to program to. I can help you with that if need be.

ACOLE 03-22-2013 02:37 AM

Case saver
 
Nice work. I would take one if they were available.:)

dan888 03-22-2013 02:46 AM

Thanks for the offer Cmott. I work for a big place that used to let you do govt. work like this. One off stuff at least. I want to see how this prototype work, then go from there. I have a su****ion that it might need to be opened up some in a couple places.
Dan

edit KF Automatically covers the letters s,p,i,c in susp icion ^^^ LOL

NEWPARTSRULE 03-22-2013 03:56 PM

Hey Dan, Nice work. If you need a test monkey, I'd be happy to try one out.

dan888 04-08-2013 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dan888 (Post 492633)
I want to see how this prototype work, then go from there. I have a susp!cion that it might need to be opened up some in a couple places.

Put 30 hard miles on the rebuilt engine, and the prototype case saver. As I suspected, the chain is flinging off on deceleration and rubbing the case saver. I'll open it up some and try again. :D Happy to report that the engine/trans had no issues.
FYI I'm looking into having a number of them water-jet cut.
Dan

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I know that the step is on the wrong side in this one :D
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TNC 04-08-2013 04:15 AM

Dan, that case saver is so tiny and fragile that I doubt you have any ability to take off any material for the chain contact without the thing turning to dust.:D

dan888 04-09-2013 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by TNC (Post 493575)
Dan, that case saver is so tiny and fragile that I doubt you have any ability to take off any material for the chain contact without the thing turning to dust.:D

It's not like TNC to do this, but I think he is being sarcastic here. If it is sarcasm, by the definition of the word, he is telling me that my case saver is big and robust, maybe overly so, and could/should be pared down. My reply here is to my version of what he meant to say. I really don't want to go too much thinner in the area directly in front of the sprocket. I'm going to, but I'd rather not. The big lead in can be opened up without a problem.
:D Dan

TNC 04-09-2013 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by dan888 (Post 493635)
It's not like TNC to do this, but I think he is being sarcastic here. If it is sarcasm, by the definition of the word, he is telling me that my case saver is big and robust, maybe overly so, and could/should be pared down. My reply here is to my version of what he meant to say. I really don't want to go too much thinner in the area directly in front of the sprocket. I'm going to, but I'd rather not. The big lead in can be opened up without a problem.
:D Dan

Dan, you get an "A" for comprehensive reading:D

But seriously, that's a nice, robust looking design, and I can't imagine that you'd do much to weaken the function of the guard to any real degree. I totally agree on the upper, "lead-in" portion of the guard, as it does seem a little close. I'm guessing you don't want to create too much space, so as not to give the chain a chance to wad up in the extra space if some disaster occurs, but that constant contact with metal, even aluminum, is vibratory in nature which is probably not good for the pins and rollers. It gets enough already from the sprockets. Still, probably all much ado about nothing. I'm a little amazed at how much a top drawer chain gets its contact points flattened a little just from rubbing on the chainguides, skid blocks, and rollers. My Hotfoot Moto guides have little signs of any wear, but the chain has definitely gotten its rounded edges flattened a tiny bit...and only one chain adjustment in thousands of miles.

Tacoma660 04-29-2018 02:36 PM

any updates on this?

klx678 04-29-2018 03:19 PM

Interesting. I considered doing something like that, but not quite that heavy duty. I wouldn't worry about the grooving though. Once deep enough the rollers will hit and roll. No big deal and far better than chain on the case. I was thinking get it centered on the rollers using spacers, avoiding mill work as another cost savings..

Have to consider putting this on the summer to-do list.

Tacoma660 04-29-2018 04:18 PM

hence me bring this back....

klx678 04-29-2018 08:00 PM

I will see what can be done.

dan888 04-30-2018 03:02 AM

I have the stock guard back on there now. I got a Husqvarna TE 250 a few years ago, and the KLX was relegated to mostly street riding. Switched it because I was worried about catching a pant leg in the open design of the one i detailed in this thread. I'll look in my parts drawer and post up about the condition of the one in this thread.
Dan

klx678 04-30-2018 12:15 PM

Dan, no problem with you if I play with the guard? I don't want to step on toes.

Tacoma660 04-30-2018 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by klx678 (Post 541258)
Dan, no problem with you if I play with the guard? I don't want to step on toes.

classy! i like the sportsmanship

dan888 05-05-2018 10:35 PM

Well sorry to say that i cant even locate the guard i made up. Its around but....Have at it Mark, and thanks for asking. :) . Sorry I couldn't give you more feedback on the original.
Dan

klx678 05-07-2018 12:48 AM

I wanted to do so with my KLX650 and with the 250. If it works I'd get some made up if cost effective. At least I have the bikes to do it. I have a WR250 rider that wants me to try to make a metal swing arm guard, because they tend to saw through the swing arm. It would be great to do one that would fit under the plastic slider. Problem - I don't have a bike or swing arm to do the work. Bummer. it's fun to make stuff and see if it can do the job.

Tacoma660 10-15-2018 09:50 PM

I just bought a set of case covers for a drz 400 off amazon for 26.00, gonna how good i can get them to fit on the klx

IDRIDR 10-15-2018 09:58 PM

Cool.
Keep us apprised.

Tacoma660 10-15-2018 10:19 PM

im still healing from the wipe out 3 weeks ago, ankle and ribs are still pretty tender. This and a few other winter projects planned since im keeping the bike in the garage to work on over the winter

Tacoma660 11-03-2018 11:42 AM

So these just came in today from german.....according to my measurements the left side should need very little trimming to fit. However the right side is going to need a relief cut for the clutch actuator


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