Originally Posted by KawaBiker
(Post 521008)
I was about to do it, but it seemed like the risk of dropping screws down the intake manifold was very high.
I guess they would hang up against the carb slide and could be fished out with a magnet. When I talked to DynoJet recently they did not even recommend taking the airbox cover off. Made no difference on their dyno tests. Snorkle, yes. Cover, no. Some air resistance is needed for the intake system to function. Go figure. Lot of variables in the equation. Of course I did the KDX snorkel with the larger opening because I don't want to risk water in the air box should I end up splashing about a bit when off roading... creek crossings. I measured up the snorkel opening to figure the area - pretty much on par with the largest part of the carb bell mouth at the very tip. So it may not be resistance, it may just be exceeding the limits of air flow requirements for the engine. One thought on the backfire screen - With a wet filter, wetted with oil that would take a serious amount of time exposed to flames to light, I doubt it really would do much that the air filter couldn't do in the "lightning strike" chance of a true backfire through the carburetor. On the other hand, anything in the way of flow is blockage. Fact is most screening used in any sort of automotive work is rated for how open the screen is. I'd bet that backfire screen could have up to 40% blockage. So removing it will go from 60% open cross section to nearly 100% disregarding the bridging that holds the fastening nut. That screen might have had value when intakes were shorter and dry paper filters were used, but not so much now. For the exhaust is if the screen was required by departments of forestry it would likely have some sort of stamping, like exhausts do. The spark arrestor is likely more for stopping hot bits of carbon from blowing out as it is for the actual flame. |
Mentioned before, but Dirt Bike Magazine has dyno'd many a bike pre- and post-screen with no power gain. Riders notice improved response.
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Originally Posted by IDRIDR
(Post 521046)
Mentioned before, but Dirt Bike Magazine has dyno'd many a bike pre- and post-screen with no power gain. Riders notice improved response.
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It's Dirt Bike Magazine. I'm sure you're correct. But why would you expect pre- vs post-screen horsepower increase in a dual sport that's already had the air flow opened up with lid removed and with aftermarket filter? I've not owned a race bike. Is the screen itself that much different between the two?
Perhaps klxster's testing will show us something? |
Originally Posted by IDRIDR
(Post 521050)
It's Dirt Bike Magazine. I'm sure you're correct. But why would you expect pre- vs post-screen horsepower increase in a dual sport that's already had the air flow opened up with lid removed and with aftermarket filter? I've not owned a race bike. Is the screen itself that much different between the two?
Perhaps klxster's testing will show us something? |
Yes, I think the KLR air filter is just about the same size as the KLX's.
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I removed the backfire screen on my KLX250/300 and can't say that it had any performance effect. This is seat of the pants testing.
When I had the Keihn carb with modified jetting I tried the KDX snorkel and had a slight boost in response. Then I removed the lid and felt even more response so that's the way I ran it All the dirt bikes I've owned over the years (mostly 2 strokes) did not have a backfire screen and I've never had a back fire on the KLX so I saw no need for the screen. I've since upgraded to a Mikuni TM36-68 and that again gave me a really good boost in throttle response. I don't have any scientific proof but I believe the less resistance you have for air going into the carburetor the more air fuel you'll have to the engine. Here's some information on removing the backfire screen Backfire Screen Removal Doug
Originally Posted by KawaBiker
(Post 521008)
I was about to do it, but it seemed like the risk of dropping screws down the intake manifold was very high.
I guess they would hang up against the carb slide and could be fished out with a magnet. When I talked to DynoJet recently they did not even recommend taking the airbox cover off. Made no difference on their dyno tests. Snorkle, yes. Cover, no. Some air resistance is needed for the intake system to function. Go figure. Lot of variables in the equation. |
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