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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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I believe the rings will already come preinstalled on the piston, but how do you position them. Do you do it just like the manual if it was still a 250.

Manual says top ring and 2 bottom rings face forward and the second ring and oil expander face rearwards. Then the bottom rings need to be turned 30-40 degrees of an angle from the opening of the top ring. Do you turn both bottom rings in the same direction, or do you turn 1 left and 1 right.

Page 4-26 in manual

So, what prevents the rings from turning inside of the cyl. while it's running?
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Whats most important is that the gaps are not lined up. I just made sure they were all 30-40 degrees apart. The rings dont spin while its running. How can they? They are pushing against the cylinder wall, and the piston travels up and down. They dont spin.
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EMS_0525
Whats most important is that the gaps are not lined up. I just made sure they were all 30-40 degrees apart. The rings dont spin while its running. How can they? They are pushing against the cylinder wall, and the piston travels up and down. They dont spin.
I think you may find a myriad of opinion and information to the contrary.
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wildcard
I think you may find a myriad of opinion and information to the contrary.
dont believe everything you read in the internets.
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EMS_0525
The rings dont spin while its running. How can they? They dont spin.
I think you'll find that they do indeed "spin" inside the cylinder.....
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by griffo1962
I think you'll find that they do indeed "spin" inside the cylinder.....
Perhaps. My stock ones came out offset by the 30-40 degrees. And the new ones should go in the same way as EMS recommends. Follow the manual.
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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i agree that the rings should be installed offset as in the service manual, however if the rings did not move there would be no need for ring dowels like 2 stroke engines have.
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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The rings spin... the theory with offsetting them is that with the idea of random diversity; they will have a very low probability of ever lining up all at once. Valves spin too. And so do bearings... :-P
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wildcard
i agree that the rings should be installed offset as in the service manual, however if the rings did not move there would be no need for ring dowels like 2 stroke engines have.
I'm too lazy to go back and research this, but if I recall a 2-stroke "must not" allow the ring gaps to move as the end gaps could hang on a port in the cylinder. 4-stroke rings do move around in the cylinder...generally.
 
Old Apr 19, 2012 | 12:01 AM
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Two stroke pistons have a pin in the ring groove to stop the rings from spinning. The rings have a cut out on the inside to allow the pin.
 



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