It doesn't matter... my bike is faster from 0-60, and it gets much better fuel economy. Plus, Ibought it for less than $8k out the door! IN YOUR FACE CAGERS!!!

 

i like the challenger just wish they offered it in a stick

 

The Challenger is supposed to have a Viper spec T56 6-spd last I heard

 

i cant stand dodge anymore. all their cars look the same... the magnum, the charger, the caliber all the same chit. and since they (the dailmer-chrysler coorperation) own the copyright to the word "hemi" they can call anything they want a hemi and legally, it is[:@]. dodge could make a 5horse gokartengine and call it a hemi engine and it would be. most ppl dont even know what a hemi is. its a engine that the cylinder heads are dome shaped instead of flat, making weaker compression, gicing you the opposite of what you think youre getting. everyone thinks it means a supercharged engine, getting insane compression, but everyones a jackass. i cant stand dodge or suzuki. ahh! now im all pissed off. im gonna stop ranting now

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Don't sugar coat it bro, tell us how you really feel! The reason I hate Dodge is because of the Charger. I thought they were going to redeem themselves with the Challenger, but they are only offering it in an auto/stick. I guess I'm a little out of the loop... I didn't even know the Challengers were already available.

 

That new 'vette looks nice, at least the front end does. Personally, I really don't like the new mustangs, challengers, or camaros. They all seem oversized and bulky, fast in a straight line but not a proper sports car.

 

I like that new vette too, I have liked all of the newer styles better thn the 90's and 80's for sure.

 

The Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers were never sports cars, nor were they meant to be. They were/are Pony cars, which are basically miniature muscle cars. They weren't designed to compete with Corvettes/Thunderbirds (the original T-Bird, which was meant to go head-to-head with the 'Vette, not to be a personal luxury car) nor were they designed for handling. The whole point of the Muscle Car was to go fast in a straight line... that's it. I am so p/o about the challenger not being available with a manual transmission that I can't see straight. I'm ILL about this one. DAMN YOU DODGE!!

 

Well to get this thread "back on" track ill posta picof the Bike i went and test drove for the heck of it. its an 04 ZX9r i believe. Had 2600 miles on it, they were asking $7,600.

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I agree wholeheartedly, but now days most people do consider them to be sports car, at least the people around these parts. They all tout how great it preforms at the track and how it can blow any other sports car out of the water, which for the most part is not the case. But my biggest gripe with this new generation of American muscle is the looks, to me they all just seem enormous with no real justification why.