New to bikes
#11
Don't be too sensitive, they're just trying to help.
Hows it going everybody, I'm 23, in the Air Force and I'm completely new to bikes. I'm currently statuined in Germany and we have some very nice roads to ride out here. I've been wanting a bike for years and i've finally decided to get one. I'm selling my 09 Civic EX and already ordered my first bike: 2010 ZX-6R. I should be taking my safety course the first week of April and hoping that New Jersey takes that to get my license. Regardless, I should be fully riding by the end of April. I cant wait. Any tips out there for new riders?
Last edited by CDN ZX6r; 03-28-2010 at 05:32 AM. Reason: forgot a comma
#13
Point to consider. Stationed in Germany, do the local laws apply?
If they do, new riders are limited to 125cc. There's a good reason for that, even if as US millitary you can obtain a US licence and bypass the local rules. Local drivers will assume that you're an experienced (> 2 years) rider and will give no quarter. German drivers are more disciplined than most, but also very strong on insisting that the rules are followed. Autobahn traffic can easily run at over 100 mph on some sections. Be very careful.
Rob
If they do, new riders are limited to 125cc. There's a good reason for that, even if as US millitary you can obtain a US licence and bypass the local rules. Local drivers will assume that you're an experienced (> 2 years) rider and will give no quarter. German drivers are more disciplined than most, but also very strong on insisting that the rules are followed. Autobahn traffic can easily run at over 100 mph on some sections. Be very careful.
Rob
Last edited by williamr; 03-29-2010 at 01:15 PM.
#14
Hey I learned something new! I didn't know any of that stuff. The 125cc limit, or the Autobahn traffic speed. I did know that the Autobahn was where people drive really fast. Do they have a speed limit now on the Autobahn, or is it unlimited?
#15
In Germany Drivers Ed is 2 years long. None of this 20 hours behind the wheel crap, these people learn how to drive and there is no being caught holding your cell phone while driving.
#16
Some autobahns are unrestricted, some have a limit - usually about 120 kph - look for the signs. If it's an unrestricted section, expect Mercs and BMWs to come up behind you at 155 mph or more and be very pissed off if you hold them up. Lane discipline is rigorously enforced - no passing either side, but splitting by motorcycles is the norm. Not sure about the legality of that in Germany these days, but it's routinely done across the EU. I've never been pulled for it, but you need to know what you're doing and be safe.
Also be aware that roundabouts are common. These seem to confuse American drivers. Traffic deposits make them slippery so unwary bikers fall off on them, especially when it's wet.
Motorcycle insurance in Germany was the highest in Europe a few years ago. I don't know if that's still true. Bikes like the ZX6R attract very high premiums and there is a multiplier effect for inexperienced riders - generally anybody with less than about 5 years experience or much under about 30 years old. As a thirty two year old with 16 years on road and a UK instructors qualification I found it cheaper to take out UK insurance and pay a 100% loading for unlimited full European cover than to pay German insurance rates - I was living in Luxembourg. Riding without insurance attracts very heavy penalties.
Neither the MSF nor track days teach you a fraction of what's needed for the roads, especially European roads, and some track schools teach stuff that is completely wrong for the road in terms of cornering and braking, but both types of training are essential to give you a starter.
Rob
Also be aware that roundabouts are common. These seem to confuse American drivers. Traffic deposits make them slippery so unwary bikers fall off on them, especially when it's wet.
Motorcycle insurance in Germany was the highest in Europe a few years ago. I don't know if that's still true. Bikes like the ZX6R attract very high premiums and there is a multiplier effect for inexperienced riders - generally anybody with less than about 5 years experience or much under about 30 years old. As a thirty two year old with 16 years on road and a UK instructors qualification I found it cheaper to take out UK insurance and pay a 100% loading for unlimited full European cover than to pay German insurance rates - I was living in Luxembourg. Riding without insurance attracts very heavy penalties.
Neither the MSF nor track days teach you a fraction of what's needed for the roads, especially European roads, and some track schools teach stuff that is completely wrong for the road in terms of cornering and braking, but both types of training are essential to give you a starter.
Rob
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