New rider! Questions about my used KLX
#11
with the Supertrapp, unless they took off the end cap and the discs, you can remove discs until the sound is reasonable for you. It may still prove to be less restrictive than the OEM muffler. Just get a new joint gasket to seal it up.
I wouldn't get too worried about the fan since the KLX650C dual sport came with one, but oddly enough the KLX650R off roader didn't. There was no issue with overheating. My 650 only comes on briefly when stuck for a bit on a trail and more continuous when stuck in traffic on a hot day. I don't remember the 250 having its fan run yet, but I don't have a lot of time on it in instances where it might. Another thought - no two stroke off roaders had fans either.
I wouldn't get too worried about the fan since the KLX650C dual sport came with one, but oddly enough the KLX650R off roader didn't. There was no issue with overheating. My 650 only comes on briefly when stuck for a bit on a trail and more continuous when stuck in traffic on a hot day. I don't remember the 250 having its fan run yet, but I don't have a lot of time on it in instances where it might. Another thought - no two stroke off roaders had fans either.
#12
with the Supertrapp, unless they took off the end cap and the discs, you can remove discs until the sound is reasonable for you. It may still prove to be less restrictive than the OEM muffler. Just get a new joint gasket to seal it up.
I wouldn't get too worried about the fan since the KLX650C dual sport came with one, but oddly enough the KLX650R off roader didn't. There was no issue with overheating. My 650 only comes on briefly when stuck for a bit on a trail and more continuous when stuck in traffic on a hot day. I don't remember the 250 having its fan run yet, but I don't have a lot of time on it in instances where it might. Another thought - no two stroke off roaders had fans either.
I wouldn't get too worried about the fan since the KLX650C dual sport came with one, but oddly enough the KLX650R off roader didn't. There was no issue with overheating. My 650 only comes on briefly when stuck for a bit on a trail and more continuous when stuck in traffic on a hot day. I don't remember the 250 having its fan run yet, but I don't have a lot of time on it in instances where it might. Another thought - no two stroke off roaders had fans either.
#13
Like I said, they don't have fans on two strokes so I wouldn't worry too much.
In all my time on the dual sport KLX650C the only time the fan would come on was when in extremely slow (post races) traffic for more than five minutes at less than 5 mph. Every bit as often it would come on when trail riding when I got stuck and was turning around on a trail, yet the off road KLX650R that is expected to do that does NOT have a fan. So I'm thinking as long as the OP wasn't in some parade they're good to go.
#14
Honestly, the Supertrapp has packaging tape on connecting end and I bet it never fit the bike right in the first place.
The PO said he never used it because it didn't seem to do anything other than make bike louder, and I can't find any reports/impressions of using a Supertrapp on this bike.
At any rate, I ride on dirt trails right in or near neighborhood so I'd prefer to be quieter at this point in time regardless I'd prefer to spend money on 351 kit in the future rather than equivalent money on new muffler.
The bolts I got from Ace Hardware didn't work too well on the radiator fan, so I ordered the actual OEM bolts and will bolt it on tonight. I just wish there was an easy way for me to test the temp sensor and fan!
The PO said he never used it because it didn't seem to do anything other than make bike louder, and I can't find any reports/impressions of using a Supertrapp on this bike.
At any rate, I ride on dirt trails right in or near neighborhood so I'd prefer to be quieter at this point in time regardless I'd prefer to spend money on 351 kit in the future rather than equivalent money on new muffler.
The bolts I got from Ace Hardware didn't work too well on the radiator fan, so I ordered the actual OEM bolts and will bolt it on tonight. I just wish there was an easy way for me to test the temp sensor and fan!
#15
The other switch in the LH rad should be for the warning light in the instrument panel and if you disconnect the lead and ground that wire the warning light should operate when the key is on.
#16
My fan on comes on a lot, depends on how many mud holes and rock gardens you get stuck in. If she blows then, you may be in trouble.
If you only ride on the street, probably don't need a fan.
If you only ride on the street, probably don't need a fan.
#17
Honestly, the Supertrapp has packaging tape on connecting end and I bet it never fit the bike right in the first place.
The PO said he never used it because it didn't seem to do anything other than make bike louder, and I can't find any reports/impressions of using a Supertrapp on this bike.
At any rate, I ride on dirt trails right in or near neighborhood so I'd prefer to be quieter at this point in time regardless I'd prefer to spend money on 351 kit in the future rather than equivalent money on new muffler.
The bolts I got from Ace Hardware didn't work too well on the radiator fan, so I ordered the actual OEM bolts and will bolt it on tonight. I just wish there was an easy way for me to test the temp sensor and fan!
The PO said he never used it because it didn't seem to do anything other than make bike louder, and I can't find any reports/impressions of using a Supertrapp on this bike.
At any rate, I ride on dirt trails right in or near neighborhood so I'd prefer to be quieter at this point in time regardless I'd prefer to spend money on 351 kit in the future rather than equivalent money on new muffler.
The bolts I got from Ace Hardware didn't work too well on the radiator fan, so I ordered the actual OEM bolts and will bolt it on tonight. I just wish there was an easy way for me to test the temp sensor and fan!
I have a Pro Circuit slip on reverse cone megaphone with the Supertrapp on it, but have yet to install it. I have a full BajaDesigns exhaust system with the Supertrapp on it, works great. The whole idea of the Supertrapp was adjustability in sound and restriction. My 650 uses 12 discs, I'm thinking my 250 would do fine with half that. My 650 is loud, but "**** the neighbors off" loud. I know... I asked them.
Realize too, that the Supertrapp portion itself is mainly the muffler. If it is the reverse cone megaphone set up it should help performance once jetted properly. If it is a can (pipe to a glass packed muffler) with the Supertrapp disc end on it, it likely won't do any more for the bike than any other can. The reverse cone megaphone is the trick - that is seldom done anymore on singles because they aren't cheap. You will notice the MotoGP bikes use one on each pipe (4 into 4). Flat trackers frequently do the same (2 into 2). a large number of the dirt trackers use the Supertrapp ends on the megaphones.
Hope that makes some sense.
As for the packing tape, if the pipe was made for the bike it would slip on over the thick gasket that is used with the stock pipe. Mine is made that way. The OEM gasket was stuck inside the flaired end on mine when I got it.
You could pull the sensor out of the bike, connect an Ohm meter to it, then put it in a pan of oil with a candy thermometer in it. Heat the oil up until the sensor trips, it will be infinite resistance until it connects then it will be 0 (zero) resistance.
I honestly have no idea if mine works, never got it to the point where the fan comes on. Maybe I should check sometime. But knowing how often my 650 trips and how long it runs, I'm not too worried about it.
Last edited by klx678; 08-15-2014 at 08:56 PM.
#18
If you must stay stock exhaust quiet, the 351 is the way to go. According to Bill Blues' dyno chart, the 351 on a 100% stock bike still makes a little more power than a uncorked, MCM'd, stage 2 (loud) KLX.
But we get pretty close - at this point - and I hope to find another couple of HP with a few new ideas some of us are working on.
But we get pretty close - at this point - and I hope to find another couple of HP with a few new ideas some of us are working on.
Last edited by Klxster; 08-15-2014 at 11:13 PM.
#19
If you must stay stock exhaust quiet, the 351 is the way to go. According to Bill Blues' dyno chart, the 351 on a 100% stock bike still makes a little more power than a uncorked, MCM'd, stage 2 (loud) KLX.
But we get pretty close - at this point - and I hope to find another couple of HP with a few new ideas some of us are working on.
But we get pretty close - at this point - and I hope to find another couple of HP with a few new ideas some of us are working on.
If I could do one performance modification on an engine regardless of cost and effort, it would be bigger bore. Adding power without adding weight is always good. The one time when I wouldn't say if you want faster buy bigger. Adding a shade more power without hurting rideability is always a nice thing. I have both the 250 and the 650. I can tell you on the road bigger is good, but off road lighter is better.
Last edited by klx678; 08-16-2014 at 12:31 PM.
#20
Captain Obvious would say the 351BB is very expensive when you add in the cost of the DJ jet kit and the clutch upgrade springs. And it requires an extensive tear down of an engine.
My bike doesn't need a tear down and I can make pretty close to 351bb-on-stock-bike power for about 1/3 the money ( Using the DG-R + DJ + MCM = $215 )
I hope to close that power gap soon with a airbox insert and proper jetting/AFR for the uncorked, stage 2, MCM bikes near sea level.
My bike doesn't need a tear down and I can make pretty close to 351bb-on-stock-bike power for about 1/3 the money ( Using the DG-R + DJ + MCM = $215 )
I hope to close that power gap soon with a airbox insert and proper jetting/AFR for the uncorked, stage 2, MCM bikes near sea level.